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Merge : Various articles
Stubs : Dungeoneer's Survival Guide, Swords & Spells, Variant Dungeons & Dragons games, More...
Update : Rewrite to be out-of-universe: Companions of the Hall, Dark Sun, Elf (Dungeons & Dragons)
Verify : add sources to novels planned for merge to List of Dragonlance novels
Other : Collaboration: Dave Arneson, Drow (Dungeons & Dragons)

A fact from Owl and Weasel appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the Did you know column on 3 September 2008, and was viewed approximately 4,210 times (disclaimer) (check views). The text of the entry was as follows:

Did you know... that the periodical Owl and Weasel played a key role in the development of the roleplaying and wargaming hobby industries in the UK?

A record of the entry may be seen at Wikipedia:Recent additions/2008/September.

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notability comment; for reference[edit]

Notability (absolute) – first Games Workshop publication, key periodical in the history of roleplaying and fantasy & science fiction gaming in the UK as well as launching one of the largest gaming companies in the world.
Notability (relative) – more notable (IMHO) than other current Wikipedia-listed defunct GW publication, Warlock, and a wide range of more-recent material under the GW category.
Non-mergeability – Not merged with White Dwarf owing to imbalance in depth of article and resultant length if carried out to same depth. Not merged with Games Workshop owing to focus herein regarding periodical content and context within wider-scale gaming in the UK at the time. Separate and distinct periodical, as recognized by GW's own history.

Please see attached external references, etc., also.
(n.b./aside: This article's page - previously redlinked - already referenced in footnotes from other Games Workshop & other gaming pages on Wikipedia edits in past few days + further to be added at a later date).

Kind regards & Best wishes, David. Harami2000 (talk) 18:07, 29 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

re. Gallery images[edit]

Agree per Mangojuice: displaying as an out-of-context gallery was somewhat "fair game" as it would be easy to interpret that as for "decorative purposes" rather than on encyclopedic grounds per WP:NFCC as was the intention (see both our talk pages). Explicit embedding is better to make that clear, I guess.

Following that discussion, I've reinstated #6 here; although, thinking things through, I may move that image onto to Games Workshop article instead at a later date as that issue was a key turning point in /their/ (company) history even more than from a magazine p.o.v. And doing so would save on any thoughts of recycling the picture of issue #1 over there again (as was done in the past on the White Dwarf article.

Hopefully that makes sense, anyhow. :) Cheers & thanks, David. Harami2000 (talk) 17:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Dungeons & Dragons category[edit]

Added back in following removal of article from the "Dungeons & Dragons" category by 19:36, 23 September 2008 204.153.84.10 without further explanation.

Yes, that's a somewhat nebulous "category", but it's probably safe to say O&W has more "right" to be in the category than "Dweomer" or Order the Stick which, after all is said and done, is a derivative cartoon with little-or-no direct input back /into/ Dungeons & Dragons; whereas O&W: 1) was the principle mechanism by which D&D was introduced to the UK 2) ran one of the earliest "Players Associations" and earliest large scale D&D convention in the UK 3) contained various articles, mechanics, etc., on D&D; with Gary Gygax's direct knowledge and blessing (GW were TSR's /official/ commercial partner in the UK which probably counts 4) and key UK D&D guru carrying forward from those O&W D&D contribs, Don Turnbull.

Ah, and postal D&D gaming, too. Just about the first anywhere for that...

If the "Dungeons & Dragons" category needs rescoping from scratch, please point to a discussion on that.

Cheers, David. Harami2000 (talk) 21:50, 23 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Title[edit]

I remember a WD-interview with Steve Jackson where he explained the title as meaning that you needed to be both "wise" and "cunning" in order to succeed at games, hence Owl for wisdom and Weasel for cunning. I believe this was back in White Dwarf 100, perhaps somebody with a copy of this (mine is now lost to history :( ) could cite it? If not in WD100 then it would have been in the 10 year anniversary a few issues before. CoopWiki (talk) 09:19, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Referencing[edit]

The article has numerous problems; with references seeming to be low quality and many bare URLs. I am unfamiliar with this article, so if anybody can do that would be great. Many thanks- VickKiang (talk) 05:17, 7 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I tried digging through archive.org to recover some of the references - consolidation in the video games sector seems to have killed many of the main refs. Ian Livingstone was knighted recently - perhaps something can be found in those bios.Unbh (talk) 12:39, 9 February 2022 (UTC)[reply]