Talk:P.G. Sittenfeld

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Coverage of 2016 US Senate campaign[edit]

Hi, I'd like to request that a bit more info be added to the article regarding Sittenfeld's ongoing Senate race. However, I have close family ties to the Sittenfeld campaign, so I'm making an edit request. This should be appended to the end of the "Life and career" section. Thanks, IagoQnsi (talk) 17:25, 29 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

On January 22, 2015, Sittenfeld announced his candidacy for the U.S. Senate seat held by current Republican United States Senator Rob Portman in 2016.[1] One month later, former Ohio Governor Ted Strickland announced his candidacy for the Democratic Senate primary as well.

Throughout his primary campaign, Sittenfeld focused heavily on gun control issues, claiming he would support reforms such as a federal ban on assault weapons and more comprehensive background checks for gun purchasers.[2] On January 28, 2016, Sittenfeld announced a proposed amendment to the Ohio legislature to restore home-rule authority on gun control. His proposal would allow city governments within Ohio to enact their own gun control laws, a power which was removed by a 2006 state law.[3]

2016 Senate Campaign Endorsements
Individuals
Organizations

References[edit]

  1. ^ "Sittenfeld: Yes, I'm running for U.S. Senate". Cincinnati.com. 22 January 2015. Retrieved 2 July 2015.
  2. ^ Higgs, Robert (November 17, 2015). "PG Sittenfeld pushes gun regulation as key campaign issue against Ted Strickland". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  3. ^ Provance, Jim (January 28, 2016). "Sittenfeld seeks return of home-rule authority on guns". Toledo Blade. Retrieved 29 February 2016.
  4. ^ Zichal, Heather (September 8, 2015). "We need lawmakers who will fight for a clean environment". The Hill. Retrieved September 23, 2015.
  5. ^ Pelzer, Jeremy (February 10, 2015). "PG Sittenfeld endorsed by former Ohio Gov. Richard Celeste". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  6. ^ Ludlow, Randy (February 12, 2016). "Richard Celeste endorses P.G. Sittenfeld in Senate primary race". The Columbus Dispatch. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  7. ^ a b c d e Pelzer, Jeremy (January 19, 2016). "Ted Strickland, PG Sittenfeld unveil Northeast Ohio endorsements". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved January 23, 2016.
  8. ^ Drusch, Andrea (January 13, 2016). "Ted Strickland's Ohio Woes". National Journal. Retrieved January 17, 2016.
  9. ^ Gomez, Henry (February 19, 2015). "P.G. Sittenfeld lands more supporters". The Plain Dealer. Retrieved March 23, 2015.
  10. ^ a b c d Wehrman, Jessica (January 26, 2015). "Democratic city council members endorse Sittenfeld". The Columbus Dispatch. Retrieved March 22, 2015.
  11. ^ Troy, Tom (July 22, 2015). "Jim Ruvolo concerned over David Pepper's treatment of Senate candidate Sittenfeld". The Toledo Blade. Retrieved July 22, 2015.
  12. ^ "Actor Jonathan Banks Endorses PG Sittenfeld for U.S. Senate". YouTube. February 24, 2016. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  13. ^ "Friends of the Earth Action endorses PG Sittenfeld for Senate". Friends of the Earth Action. February 16, 2016. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  14. ^ "For the U.S. Senate: P.G. Sittenfeld in the Democratic primary". Akron Beacon Journal. February 27, 2016. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
  15. ^ "PG Sittenfeld for U.S. Senate in the Democratic primary: endorsement editorial". The Plain Dealer. February 29, 2016. Retrieved February 29, 2016.
 Done @IagoQnsi: Sorry, by the time a reviewer got to this, it's out of date! I have added most of your edit anyway, with some minor changes to reflect recent developments. —  crh 23  (Talk) 21:37, 23 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]
@Crh23: Thanks, and no worries -- I've seen how full that backlog gets. FYI, I went ahead and added one more endorsement that came after my request, fixed a typo, and noted what election Sittenfeld lost in -- it's all in this contribution. I figured these were small enough changes that I went ahead and made them now instead of throwing it back on the backlog. -IagoQnsi (talk) 01:38, 25 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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IagoQnsi's conflict of interest[edit]

Hey, just leaving a note to explain my conflict of interest. I know P.G. personally -- he's a friend as well as a coworker at the company DataRole. Besides my edit request above, I've made a few edits to the page, but they're mostly trivial. Besides copy editing and tweaking templates, my changes are: I added the current photo, I added a missing endorsement in the 2016 Senate campaign endorsement list, and I added a sentence about him working at DataRole. If you dig way back in the page history, you'll see I also made some structural changes to the page back in May 2012 using my old account (User:Oxguy3), but I didn't know P.G. personally at the time. -IagoQnsi (talk) 03:02, 7 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 13 July 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was:Move to → P.G. Sittenfeld Per MOS:INITIALS , consensus established Megan Barris (Lets talk📧) 18:25, 24 July 2020 (UTC) (non-admin closure)[reply]

P. G. Sittenfeld → P.G. Sittenfeld – "P.G." with no spaces seems to be the preferred spelling used overwhelmingly by both reliable sources and Sittenfeld himself. "PG" is also sometimes used, but I have seen no uses of "P. G." outside of this Wikipedia article. Per MOS:INITIALS, we should follow the name that both the subject and an overwhelming majority of sources use. Sittenfeld himself interchangeably uses either "PG" (PGSittenfeld.com, Facebook) or "P.G." (Instagram, Twitter, official councilmember page). Reliable third-party sources seem to unanimously agree on "P.G.": see Cincinnati Enquirer, WLWT, WVXU, WCPO, Cincinnati Business Courier, WXIX, CityBeat, WKRC, Columbus Dispatch, WOSU, etc. (Some of those sources – namely CityBeat and WOSU – drop the periods in headlines and use "PG", but in the article body, they both use "P.G.".) IagoQnsi (talk) 19:32, 13 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Oppose. Purely a stylistic issue, and Wikipedia house style is as current. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:56, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

An initial is capitalized and is followed by a full point (period) and a space (e.g. J. R. R. Tolkien), unless:

  • the person demonstrably has a different, consistently preferred style for his or her own name; and
  • an overwhelming majority of reliable sources use that variant style for that person.

In such a case, treat it as a self-published name change. Examples include k.d. lang, CC Sabathia, and CCH Pounder.

Just like those examples, I think P.G.'s case should be treated as a self-published name change. In a Cleveland.com article, he said he's been going by "P.G." since before he could talk. In reliable sources, you will never see him called Paul (or George or Alexander); the name "P.G." is treated like a standalone name that can't be broken into parts. To me, this case seems no different than any of the examples from MOS:INITIALS. –IagoQnsi (talk) 18:13, 15 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Which third party sources are not consistent here? I'm actually struggling to find any using the current title. Thanks.--Yaksar (let's chat) 00:34, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per the points in MOS:INITIALS shared above. It is tough to argue that this preferred version is not used overwhelmingly when we can't find a single one that does not use it... --Yaksar (let's chat) 00:33, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
    • This argument could be used to change pretty much all similar article titles for British individuals, since modern British English invariably omits the full stops (periods) between letters in abbreviations. However, due to our house style we use them for reasons of consistency. This is no different. -- Necrothesp (talk) 09:18, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
      • How? In house style says that when a person has "a different, consistently preferred style for his or her own name" and "an overwhelming majority of reliable sources use that variant style" then that is the style that should be used. Given that ZERO use the current style, and 99.9 percent use the proposed one, which we know is his preferred one, by what argument does our style guide suggest we should use the current title. Which again, seems to be used in basically ZERO reliable sources!--Yaksar (let's chat) 14:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support Per nomination and MOS:INITIALS, He clearly has a consistently preferred style for his name. Rugbyfan22 (talk) 09:22, 24 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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