Talk:PTC Creo

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"Educational Edition Confusion"[edit]

I removed this section because

  1. there are no references for these claims and
  2. at least the part "when in fact they are receiving the previous version" is plainly wrong.

In PTC-speak "Datecode" is used to differentiate between the pre-releases of a release ("beta") and the different bug fix builds within the release. The software within the same release was simply renamed from "PTC Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5.0" ("Datecode" M060) to "PTC Creo Elements/Pro 5.0" ("Datecode" M065), presumably for marketing reasons. Thus those students would not have had received the "previous version", but the "current version" with a new name – the same which they had already bought before. I suppose that student licenses allow for using the latest "Datecode" within a release.

With proper references, one could undoubtedly write about the issues between marketing and software engineering inside PTC, the frequent renames of the same piece of software (… Pro/ENGINEER R18 … Pro/ENGINEER R20 … Pro/ENGINEER 2000i … Pro/ENGINEER 2000i² … Pro/ENGINEER 2001 … Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire … Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 2.0 … Pro/ENGINEER Wildfire 5.0 = Creo Elements/Pro 5.0 … Creo Parametric 1.0 … Creo Parametric 3.0) and the confusion this causes. asklucas (talk) 20:14, 11 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge with PTC Creo Elements/Pro[edit]

These articles appear to be describing the same family of products (Creo, formerly Pro Engineer). heat_fan1 (talk) 20:02, 24 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

I've been a Proe user for over 20 years. PTC's Creo is a family of products that included what was Proe, but is actually much more. I know the history of the Proe line and some of the others, but not all.

As the article says, PTC announced the Creo family in 2010. It immediately renamed Proe Wildfire 5 to Creo Elements/Pro 5.0. It was the same software, new name. At the same time, I believe, CoCreate became Creo Elements/Direct. I'm not as familiar with the CoCreate side of things as I don't use it.

The next version of what was Proe became Creo Parametric 1.0 in 2011. The CoCreate line has kept the "Creo Elements/Direct" naming convention.

There is also Creo Direct (not the same as Creo Elements/Direct) a direct modeling CAD tool that I believe was built from Parametric, Creo View which is what was Product View prior to the Creo launch, Creo Illustrate which I believe is a 2D illustration tool, I'm not very familiar with it and more. Here's PTC's product line: https://www.ptc.com/en/products/all

My experience is that PTC likes to refer to Creo as one thing. It's not and this has led to a lot of confusion. The reality is there seems to be little overlap in the user base of the CAD tools, Creo Parametric, Creo Elements/Direct and Creo Direct. Typically, when users speak of "Creo X.0", they are usually, but not always, referring to Creo Parametric. Creo Parametric & Creo Direct follow the same versioning, but Creo Elements/Direct I believe has kept the version numbers consistent with what CoCreate was. I believe that Creo Elements/Direct is on version 19.0 (and the free Creo Elements/Direct Modeling Express is on version 6.0) while Creo Direct & Creo Parametric just released version 5.0 in March of 2018.

So, PTC Creo is a suite of products, including what was originally Proe. Proe became Proe Wildfire then Creo Elements/Pro and then Creo Parametric. In my mind, there ought to be two pages, one for the PTC Creo family, another for Creo Parametric and its predecessors. There probably ought to be pages for the more popular other Creo packages as well. Salguod net (talk) 12:25, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Added additional information to the term[edit]

I added a lot of information to the term to help the viewers understand more about PTC CREO, added a more finite description to the difference between parametric and elemental. I added some general information about Creo features and software's that anybody could understand. I addded another heading to the topic with the links to download CREO and CREO Educational.