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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 April 2021[edit]

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Under ==Origins and Starting Points== After the sentence "In keeping with this philosophy, Al-Quds University states that although "Palestine was conquered in times past by ancient Egyptians, Hittites, Philistines, Israelites, Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Romans, Muslim Arabs, Mamlukes, Ottomans, the British, the Zionists … the population remained constant—and is now still Palestinian."[5]"

The term Palestinian has changed meanings over the centuries and in different contexts. For many in Europe, before the founding of the modern state of Israel, Palestinian meant to refer to Jews, whereas Arabs were merely known as Arabs in the land of Palestine. A prominent example of this is Immanuel Kant, an 18th-century Prussian philosopher who referred to European Jews as "Palestinians living among us." ^[1] Another example is a comic in the New York times, portraying 'Palestinians' fighting Nazis and the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Amin al-Husseini. ^[2] Shenkin25 (talk) 10:20, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Please outline the exact edit you would like to make, and get consensus for the change, before requesting an edit. Thanks. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:06, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Comics count for nothing. The Kant reference is a good example of "be careful what you wish for". What Kant wrote was "Die unter uns lebenden Palästiner sind durch ihren Wuchergeist seit ihrem Exil, auch was die größte Menge betrifft, in den nicht ungegründeten Ruf des Betruges gekommen." (You can google-translate it if you can't read it.) It is true that Jews, but more often Zionists, were sometimes called Palestinians but it is not true that Arabs never were so called. In any case, Shenkin25 seems to be complaining about a direct quotation, which we are not permitted to alter. Zero^talk 13:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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^ Kant, Immanuel (1974): Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View. Translated by Mary J. Gregor. The Hague: Martinus Nijhoff, cited in Chad Alan Goldberg, Politicide Revisited. University of Wisconsin-Madison
^ New York Times, May 16, 1948, Section E, Page 4, available at https://www.nytimes.com/1948/05/16/archives/jews-in-grave-danger-in-all-moslem-lands-nine-hundred-thousand-in.html

Should Famous Palestinian Nationalists Be Mentioned Within the Lead?[edit]

I feel like we ought to name specific individuals. Yet whom should be included? CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 02:36, 22 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Opposition to pre-Zionist occupation[edit]

According to the article, "and the preceding non-domestic Arab occupations over the Gaza Strip (by Egypt) and the West Bank (by Jordan) additionally had opposition." I have never heard of any such opposition. Furthermore no source is provided for this implausible claim. I propose that this passage be deleted as an obvious lie. Banderswipe (talk) 20:36, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Idk if it is a lie or not but it is unsourced and not afaics in the article body either, so I removed it. Selfstudier (talk) 22:19, 23 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"From the river to the sea (album)" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

The redirect From the river to the sea (album) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 October 10 § From the river to the sea (album) until a consensus is reached. GnocchiFan (talk) 21:34, 10 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

"From the River to the Sea (album)" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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"Historic Palestine" listed at Redirects for discussion[edit]

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"was the first instance that indigenous Sephardi and Mizrahi had been killed."[edit]

Under the section "politicization of the Wailing Wall". This is incorrect and should be deleted:

Jerusalem stabbings (1921)

ect. Hawar jesser (talk) 03:13, 21 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

[1] Kant, Immanuel (1974): Anthropology from a Pragmatic Point of View. Translated by Mary J. Gregor. The Hague: Martinus Nijhoff, cited in Chad Alan Goldberg, Politicide Revisited. University of Wisconsin-Madison

[2] New York Times, May 16, 1948, Section E, Page 4, available at https://www.nytimes.com/1948/05/16/archives/jews-in-grave-danger-in-all-moslem-lands-nine-hundred-thousand-in.html

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