Talk:Parker Molloy

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Since someone is deciding to violate WP:GenderIdentity and MOS:Identity, let's chat.

MOS:IDENTITY states:

[F]or terms relating to gender[, ...] we favor self-designation, even when source usage would indicate otherwise. Any person whose gender might be questioned should be referred to by the pronouns, possessive adjectives, and gendered nouns (for example "man/woman", "waiter/waitress", "chairman/chairwoman") that reflect that person's latest expressed gender self-identification. This applies in references to any phase of that person's life, unless the subject has indicated a preference otherwise. Direct quotations may need to be handled as exceptions (in some cases adjusting the portion used may reduce apparent contradictions, and " [sic]" may be used where necessary).

Why does Wikipedia refer to people according to their gender self-identification? Wikipedia's policy on biographies of living people says "the possibility of harm to living subjects must always be considered when exercising editorial judgment", and on 9 April 2009 the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees passed a resolution urging that special attention be paid to neutrality, verifiability and human dignity. As Wikipedia's article on the subject explains, "gender identity is a person's private sense, and subjective experience, of their own gender." We accept the person's latest identification of their gender, as documented in reliable sources, at face value. To do otherwise — 'to refer to transgender or genderqueer people by names or pronouns which disregard their gender identities, i.e. to misgender them — is deeply offensive and causes harm'.[1][2][3]

73.191.40.183 (talk) 16:35, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Emily Esque[reply]

See Wikipedia:Gender identity, The Wachowskis (includes birth name), Chelsea Manning (includes birth name).--50.249.27.137 (talk) 16:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Those analogies are inapt. Both Ms. Wachowski and Ms. Manning were notable under their former names, thereby making the presence of their former names relevant. No such case can be made here; the only reason to include Ms. Molloy's former name is prurient interest, which is not allowed under WP:Gender Identity or MOS:Identity Emily Esque (talk) 17:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC) Emily Esque[reply]

Lea T --50.249.27.137 (talk) 21:32, 5 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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