Talk:Pay what you want

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Ref or spamlink?[edit]

Here's more for references: [1] --68.161.156.210 (talk) 01:33, 9 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rreisman (talk) 19:58, 14 August 2011 (UTC) I did a significant expansion of this page just earlier, by copying into my sandbox, then copying back, to minimize any risk to the live page -- sorry if this may have confused the change tracking. (I don't know if this is commenting in the right place--added this after saving changes)[reply]

My intent was to remove none of the prior content, simply to add, and do minor mods/corrections related to that. Citations are included wherever necessary I think (except for material already in referenced related pages, and presumably adequately cited there). Please let me know if any issues.

Tips[edit]

Should tips for wait staff and others in the service industry be discussed in this article? --WBTtheFROG (talk) 00:40, 14 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

No, I don't think tips should be included. There is a strong aspect of expectation in tips, as many wait staff earn the majority of their income from tips.--FeralOink (talk) 15:28, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Merge with Name Your Own Price?[edit]

Both articles cover a lot of common ground are apparently unaware of each other's existence. 2A02:1810:A802:8A00:FDC5:AC28:D140:2898 (talk) 06:43, 1 May 2015 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest they NOT be merged, but differentiation might be helpful. PWYW (even with a posted floor price) is actually very different from Priceline-style Name Your Own Price, since NYOP keeps the floor secret (it has been described as more accurately “Guess Our Price.”) Rather than seeking win-win customer fairness and transparency (and framing to merit generosity, as Everlane.com did in their 2015 after Christmas PWYW sale), NYOP is an opaque zero-sum bidding game for bargain hunters in which the customer tries to get as close to the secret floor as possible, but loses the turn if they bid too low (so that customers are driven to bid higher simply to avoid being shut out by missing the floor). See http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/getting-acquainted-with-priceline.html. (Rreisman (talk) 23:15, 4 January 2016 (UTC)RReisman)[reply]

Ref idea[edit]

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/12/pay-what-you-want-pricing-often-backfires.html

czar 05:16, 7 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Nice find, Czar! It gives sources to scholarly journals, which makes it especially useful for Wikipedia. Thank you!--FeralOink (talk) 15:37, 2 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pay what feels right[edit]

Here is an example of an openly licensed book available under "Pay what feels right" terms, which are not mentioned in the article but I think fit in there. Perhaps it could serve as an illustration. -- Daniel Mietchen (talk) 16:31, 22 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Several edits, seeking confirmation on one[edit]

I have gone through and changed some wording in the article to break up sentences. I have listed notable changes below

added ex ante and ex post to the introductory paragraph to connect it to the enhancement section
converted the invisible comment on the characteristics of a PWYW model into a paragraph\
grammatical changes to the History and commercial uses section, as well as including dates where absent.
changed the Research second paragraph wording to remove the implicature that it is the same as the Kim et al. 2009 experiment.
changed the direct quotation in Enhanced forms to a close paraphrasing
changed the wording of the FairPay section to make it more accessible

There is one change I am unsure of (and so have not made) and would appreciate feedback on

changing 'participatory pricing' to 'participative pricing' since both terms appear to be used in relevant academic papers

Daystopia (talk) 10:42, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed merge of Pay what you can into Pay what you want[edit]

Unable to find sources which clearly differentiate. Daask (talk) 13:10, 22 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daask, I support the merger. It could most likely be just a redirect to the other page, and possibly a small section or an added spot about PWYC vs PWYW. ~RAM (talk) 13:49, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Daask, I also support the merger. I can't find sources to differentiate either. I can't even find many examples of pay what you can anywhere. Pay what you want seems to be the more prevalent form of the two, which supports what you and ~RAM suggested, i.e. merge PWYC into PWYW.--FeralOink (talk) 22:00, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I don't have any sources except the dictionary. I'd suggest pay-what-you-can is prevalent in a transaction where the buyer has the limiting economic position (ie the buyer is poorer). This is diametrically opposed to pay-what-you-want which is prevalent in a transaction where the seller has the limiting economic position ( ie the seller is poorer). I haven't read either article. Liberty5651 (talk) 22:09, 6 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Closing with no merge, given the uncontested objection with stale discussion. Klbrain (talk) 11:18, 16 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]