Talk:Pellet stove

Large Edit Overhaul

I welcome any comments on my additions to the more specific pellet stove page. The blank redirect page is gone, finally.

TheCrippledWerewolf 26 November 2006

Hi there, since the German version of this article is much more sophisticated, I would like to translate some of the information and it's been a while that it has been updated. Geneva2106 (talk) 09:27, 18 June 2014 (UTC)

Low-cost variation?

There is a new low cost idea! A Pellet Basket! Burn wood pellets in a pellet basket for your fireplace or wood stoves. Check them out at www.burnwoodpellets.com and see how they work, and how they can save you money on your heating bills. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.83.29.98 (talk) 02:18, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

If there is a low-cost variation on this idea, it might qualify as Appropriate technology. E.g. it could be used for animal dung, which when burnt indoors in Africa causes a lot of health problems.

If there is such a thing and anyone has info on this, it should be added, with a link from that page (Appropriate technology), and the appropriate category added. I'm happy to help - let me know on my talk page --Singkong2005 01:50, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

There are devices that can be used to create briquettes from grass/dung/sawdust: http://www.lehmans.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=5788&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=671&iSubCat=886&iProductID=5788 There are also small gasifier stoves for cooking/heating, and small can stoves that run on sawdust. But none of these really take advantage of the automatic feeding that is possible with pellets. Creating pellets on a household scale seems to be somewhat difficult. And, honestly, developing countries are already ahead of the curve in creating and adopting many of these technologies anyways. --Benjamindees 19:18, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks - I'll look into it. --Singkong2005 04:04, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

corn stove

The information on cost of corn needs to be updated. Here in Midwest, corn is almost $3 a bushel this year and the price gap between propane & corn has narrowed. I have a corn stove. Gravemistake 22:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)gravemistake

Separate articles

I think that the Corn Stove page should be separate from the Pellet Stove. The reason for this is that many people burn corn because it is less of a CO2 producer than burning wood. That is, wood pellet stoves release more CO2 into the air because they burn wood. Corn, on the other hand, sucks in tons of CO2 but most of it is kept in the stalks which are not burned. There should be links to each other on each page, but please keep them separate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jgroves4ward2 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 23 October 2007

Actually, rotting corn stalks release CO2 just as if they'd been burned, where the wood that isn't made into pellets is turned into lumber, and sequester their carbon until the building is demolished.

CO2 emissions from biofuels are irrelevant, as the CO2 will re-enter the atmosphere whether the fuel is burned or not. For example, wood waste will decompose, releasing CO2, and corn will be consumed and release its CO2 as a result of metabolization. CO2 emissions with regard to global climate change are only relevant with regard to fossil fuels, which release CO2 from previously sequestered sources.--Edgewise (talk) 02:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

All organic matter releases VOC's. including but limited to CO2 as it decomposes. A fallen tree that rots in forest or the same tree that is burned release the same amount of CO2, though with a rotting tree the process is slower. Construction lumber does not sequester VOC's or CO2 but rather emits forever until the the wood decomposes. Wood that is sealed will off-gas slower but still off-gases.

The carbon neutrality of wood, or what is thought of as neutrality comes from the notion that while the tree was growing it turned CO2 into O2 via photosynthesis, however, not all tree are created equal. The willow tree is the most efficient, white pine not so much. This theory of neutrality depends on what trees are being harvested and what trees are being planted as their replacement and how long the new plantations are able to mature. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smwilliamson (talk • contribs) 02:36, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

Fuel cost calculator

I found this fuel cost calculator at http://www.pelletheat.org/3/residential/compareFuel.cfm/ from the the Pellet Fuels Institute. Could this be added to this entry --Quick5875 (talk) 20:52, 28 May 2008 (UTC)

Pulverization

I thought I overhead a pellet stove owner at Home Depot mention something about how his pellet stove pulverizes the pellets and blows the dust into the combustion area. But this article makes no mention of that. Should it? —EncMstr (talk) 02:15, 6 December 2010 (UTC)

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: moot. It looks like a renamed isn't needed any more. Armbrust ^{The Homunculus} 08:24, 11 July 2014 (UTC)

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Pellet stove → Pellet heating? Pellet boiler? – The name pellet stove alone is not appropriate since it only refers to single ovens, but there is many different systems like furnaces or central heating system. Pellet heating would allow to describe all different types of pellet stoves, pellet boiler and pellet furnaces. I would like to update the site with information from the German Wikipdia ((Pelletheizung)) which also means Pellet heating, Pellet stove would mean Pelletofen. I also checked on Google, Google results for pellet heating: 8 million, pellet boiler: 1.8 million and pellet stove 1.2 million results. Geneva2106 (talk) 13:22, 2 July 2014 (UTC)

Have you considered starting a new article, Pellet Heating, instead? I think that it could become a large article, discussing concepts, comparisons to other heating, environmental concerns, along with pellet stoves and central boilers and furnaces. A pellet stove section could be a summary with a link to this main article. 184.209.10.72 (talk) 16:02, 6 July 2014 (UTC)

I did have that thought... Will try that! Thank you. Here is the draft. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Geneva2106/Pellet_Heating&action=submit Geneva2106 (talk) 06:54, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

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Origins of the wood pellet

Presto-logs, though manufactured from wood scrap in the 1930's has no direct correlation to the wood pellets we now use in pellet stoves. The first wood pellet was manufactured by Ken Tucker in Sandpoint, Idaho in 1979. The method for making wood pellets is extrusion vs. compression of the "presto-log. The feed stock is different and is an entirely different process. The two have no connection. Additionally, "hobo" stoves or barrel stoves also have no direct link to pellet stoves. Dr. Jerry Whitfield is often cited as the father of the pellet stove, though he is most notably known for working with Ken Tucker in making the first wood pellet. It during this process that he realized the potential of using wood pellets and then set about to make a small scale burner that could use this new fuel source. These models ultimately became the genesis for "Whitfield" pellet stoves. Joe Treager may actually have been the father of the modern pellet stove as he was making one offs for consumers as early as 1981- 82. Whitfield stoves didn't come to be until 1983.

Working on citing this for verification — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:6:7000:EE:3D63:78E5:6E0C:4F10 (talk) 02:23, 14 March 2015 (UTC)