Talk:Pennsylvania Route 299

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Updating the article[edit]

Based on the text, nothing actually needs to be updated. The highway designation still exists, if only on the bridge over the rail line. On that basis, it wasn't decommissioned in 2011, just drastically shortened. That means that the headers in the infobox should stay green (still exists), the marker should still appear at the top (even if unsigned now, it was signed at one point), and the text accurately reflects that situation.

Now, if it has been converted to a Quadrant Route, then changing the text and graphic would be appropriate, but we'd need to also update the text of the article to reflect that change, and provide a source to that effect. Otherwise, the infobox appears to be accurate at the present. Imzadi 1979 → 23:57, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding unsigned vs. signed highways: Interstate 296 and M-155 are each currently unsigned, but since they were signed, they have their markers at the top of the infobox. M-331 has never been signed, so it lacks a marker at the top of its infobox. M-554 was not signed by MDOT, but the City did put up street blades, so its infobox has a street sign graphic instead. Imzadi 1979 → 23:59, 30 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

PennDOT inventories the Powell Avenue bridge over the railroad tracks as SR 0299, so it is a regular traffic route and not a quadrant route. It just happens to be a traffic route that is solely a bridge over a railroad line (there are many other examples of quadrant routes that consist only of bridges, sometimes multiple bridges along a single locally-maintained road). The shield should remain to convey that PA 299 was once signed as a longer route and the header should remain green since its still active despite being much shorter than it was. Dough4872 00:06, 31 August 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Just because it begins with 0 doesn't mean it's a traffic route. There are some places where a traffic route was realigned but the underlying state route numbers were never changed, leading to a piece of 0xxx that's no longer traffic route xxx. The county map does not place a traffic route shield there, but instead labels it 0299. --NE2 22:27, 3 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]