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Text and/or other creative content from this version of Pippi Longstocking was copied or moved into Pippi Longstocking (novel) with this edit. The former page's history now serves to provide attribution for that content in the latter page, and it must not be deleted as long as the latter page exists.

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Angels who went to heaven[edit]

Mrs. Sterngen, Annica, Tommy. Mrs. Strengen ask Pippi about her parents. Pippi was left alone without a guardian or parent responsible for taking care of her. Pippi states to Annica and Tommy's mother that her father is out to sea, her mother is an angel just like Mary/Marry Madine, Mona Lisa, Mother Teresa, Divine Mary, were all in Heaven. Pippi looked into the heavens of the firament skies, then says "she is tough enough to take of herself". User:99.243.122.150 04:32, 25 June 2009

Pippi's full name[edit]

Hey Guys, I notice that the admins are trying to revert vandalism however I have a reasonable cite source to prove Pippi's actual full name. So admins, can you please not revert the article to the exact previous state as Pippi's full name is actually Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Ephraim's Daughter Longstocking NOT Pippilotta Provisiona Garbedina Dandeliona Ephraim's Daughter Longstocking. I thank you of your understanding! 206.251.227.134 (talk) 12:53, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

First thing to be aware of is that this book was originally written in Swedish, so any English version is going to be a translation. The second thing is that the name changes a lot, which is sort of playful.

In 1973 Boy's Life wrote that her name was "Pippilotta Rollgardinia Victualia Peppermint Longstocking".
In 1974 Film News wrote that her name was "Pippilotta Rollgardinia Victualia Peppermint Long-stocking".
The 1976 Reading Unlimited: Golden Treasure version of the book published her name as Pippilotta Delicatessa Window-shade Mackrelmint Efraim's Daughter Longstocking."
In 1978 a book about teaching relayed her name as "Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Efraim's Daughter Longstocking".
In 1978 the Junior Bookshelf version of the book published her name as "PIPPILOTTA Provisionia Gaberdina Longstocking, to use the shortened form of her name..."
A 1986 Random House books gives her name as "Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Efraim's Daughter Longstocking".
In a 1991 guide to children's books, the name is given as "Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrel-mint Efraim's Daughter Longstocking".
In 1991 The Hollywood Reporter wrote that her name was "Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Ephraim's Daughter Longstocking".
In 1999 Wisconsin West Magazine wrote a theatre review describing her name as "Pippilotta Delicaatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Ephraim's Daughter Longstocking".
A 2000 publication of the book gives her name as "Pippilotta Provisionia Gaberdina Dandeliona Ephraimsdaughter Longstocking".
In 2003 somebody published a Pippi musical which says her name is "Pippilotta Pantry-cleaner Pepperminta Gaberdina Ephraim's-daughter Longstocking".

So perhaps this article should tell the reader what are the various versions of her full name, rather than settling on just one of them. Binksternet (talk) 15:49, 30 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

As far as I'm aware it is "Pippilotta Delicatessa Windowshade Mackrelmint Efraim's Daughter Longstocking" because is the only full name that his been mentioned in the films and have the reasonable source to prove it, therefore I agree that this should be the name to display on this article. Many Thanks, 206.251.227.134 (talk) 00:38, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So you think the films in English have the highest authority? What about the books in English? What about the original Swedish book? Binksternet (talk) 01:43, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Also, you spelled Ephraim two ways, as do the sources. Binksternet (talk) 01:44, 1 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

One of her Swedish names is misspelled in the article. It's "Krusmynta", not "Kursmynta" (that doesn't make any sense at all). Can someone correct this error?--80.244.79.111 (talk) 04:17, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Thanks for the note! Binksternet (talk) 04:42, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

While the full Swedish name is, at least, very difficult, if not outright impossible, to translate, it isn't nonsense as claimed in the article. "Pippilotta" is a real, if rather outdated name. "Viktualia" comes from 'Viktualier', meaning basic food items. "Rullgardina" from 'Rullgardin', meaning 'Roll-down curtain'. "Krysmynta" is a type of spearmint, specifically Mentha spicata. v. crispata. And "Efraimsdotter" means, literally, 'Daughter of Efraim', suggesting that that is the name of her father.85.229.51.18 (talk) 11:19, 29 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

names of books[edit]

article doesn't state names of all pippi longstocking books - just the first and last in the series. Isn't that a rather glaring omission?

Could you please elaborate? The names of the three books are given in the last paragraph of development. Best, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 20:20, 19 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Rapunzel. You are correct it mentions them in development, I just thought there should be a separate section listing the books in the series... I came to this page to see if there were other books in the series for my daughter and looked to see if there was a list, didn't find it tucked away at the end of development - the names of the books is more fundamental than an explanation of influences and inspirations etc which led to them being written? Which is why I suggest separate section Boiledspaghetti (talk) 14:59, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I see, thank you for elaborating. For reference, there are three books—Pippi Longstocking, Pippi Goes on Board, and Pippi in the South Sea—and a handful of picturebooks based on excerpts from those books. To the best of my knowledge, it is not standard practice to have a list of books in a character article. There are main articles for each of the three Pippi books you might find helpful in the future, although they are regrettably a bit underdeveloped. I will definitely give it a think over as to how to best convey the information, and if there is some rearranging or so that might help make this clearer. I sincerely hope you daughter enjoys the books. Best, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:27, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

After a bit of thought, I've added the names of the three Pippi books to the lead of the article. Hopefully that helps. Best, Rapunzel-bellflower (talk) 17:36, 20 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Translations of Pippi's name and list of books[edit]

(Copied from WP:Children's literature talk page) I support the inclusion of Pippi's names in other languages. I also miss a full list of the Pippi books in the body of the article (not just those in the template or those mentioned in the lead). These are:

   *Pippi Longstocking (Pippi Långstrump, 1945)
   *Pippi Goes On Board (also known as: Pippi Goes Aboard, Swedish: Pippi Långstrump går ombord, 1946)
   *Pippi in the South Seas (Pippi Långstrump i Söderhavet, 1948)
   *Pippi's After-Christmas Party (Pippi Långstrump har julgransplundring, 1950)
   *Pippi Longstocking in the Park (Pippi Långstrump i Humlegården, 1945)
   *Pippi Moves In! (Pippi flyttar in, 1969)

I would suggest including references for each. The article is progressing well. It looks like a good candidate for GA. A GA review would also certainly lead to further suggestions for improvement.--Ipigott (talk) 09:09, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I've been working on this myself and think most of the significant publications are now listed. The others appear to be based on those already mentioned.--Ipigott (talk) 15:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrators[edit]

I think the article needs a section on the illustrators, especially Ingrid Nyman, who was instrumental in making a success of the Swedish editions, but we should also look into the illustrators of the English editions. Maybe we could also include something on the various translators.--Ipigott (talk) 15:32, 9 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]