Talk:Plain of Torvioll

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I am hoping Shumat is the same as Shumbat. Shumat matches the geographical features of Shumbat as described by Frashëri. Furthermore, this site seems to agree that the two are the same: [1]. I think Google Easrth might have made a typo.--Gaius Claudius Nero (talk) 20:34, 21 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Giammaria Biemmi's work, one of the primary sources on Skanderbeg and his campaigns[edit]

Giammaria Biemmi is not RS because he forged his sources about Skanderbeg. Therefore any mention of him as reliable source or any information based solely on his work should be deleted from the article. The "Anonymous of Antivari" was Biemmi's invention that some historians (Fan S. Noli and Athanase Gegaj) had not discovered and used his forgery as source in their works.

  • Setton, Kenneth M. (1978), The Papacy and the Levant (1204–1571), Volume II: The Fifteenth Century, DIANE Publishing, p. 102, ISBN 0-87169-127-2, Unfortunately Athanase Gegaj, L'Albanie et I'invasion turque au XV siecle, Louvain and Paris, 1937, pp. 77-80, had not discovered that the "Anonymous of Antivari" was an invention of Biemmi, nor had Noli even by 1947.

--Antidiskriminator (talk) 13:20, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The only source is Frashëri i.e why did you add the tag? --— ZjarriRrethues — talk 18:08, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"The plain, according to Giammaria Biemmi's work...." .... " He also says that it is...." .... "the Black Drin matches all of the geographical features described by Biemmi, " ..... "Biemmi furthermore states that..."...--Antidiskriminator (talk) 19:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]