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Spelt and spelled are irregular verbs. After I edited it I went on a bit of hunt for references on their use, and it seems their is a difference in use between the U.S. and U.K.. Being Australian I have a bias for the U.K. English, but I understand that this is a predominantly U.S. site, so I have no issue with the revert. It was interesting to find out the different direcions the two forms of English have taken. --Randolph 00:48, 5 May 2005 (UTC)

The Boodewaadamiiyag are divided between those communities in Canada and those communities in the United States, with majority in the United States. However, due to this split and British English orthographies being quite common in both Wisconsin and Michigan, I don't think the issue of English orthography should even be an issue, as long as the article is consistent in its orthographic scheme. CJLippert 01:50, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
Since this article is on the American Indian tribe, the standard American English "spelled" should be used, in my opinion. --BaronLarf 01:35, May 5, 2005 (UTC)

Survey of Anishinaabe-related articles

We have begun a survey of all thing associated with the Anishinaabe peoples. Please visit (and possibly add, edit) to Wikipedia:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Anishinaabe, or from there create a new article. Miigwech CJLippert 05:36, 4 October 2006 (UTC) (modified CJLippert 23:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC))

"related groups" info removed from infobox

For dedicated editors of this page: The "related Groups" info was removed from all {{Infobox Ethnic group}} infoboxes. Comments may be left here. Ling.Nut 22:53, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

History - Leaders - reorganization of sections

This week, I plan to reorganize the history and leaders section. I've got additional information for the history section - relation migration and want to split history into the same segments that are used in the Leaders section. Then, I want to move the leaders lists into the appropriate part of the history with a subsection for leaders:

2. History
2.1 French period (1615–1763)

  • 2.1.1 Leaders

2.2 English period (1763–1783)

  • 2.2.1 Leaders
  • 2.3 United States treaty period (1783–1830)
  • 2.2.1 Milwaukee Potawatomi
  • 2.2.2 Chicago Potawatomi
  • 2.2.3 Des Plaines and Fox River Potawatomi
  • 2.2.4 Illinois River Potawatomi
  • 2.2.5 Kankakee River (Iroquois and Yellow Rivers) Potawatomi
  • 2.2.6 St. Joseph and Elkhart Potawatomi
  • 2.2.7 Tippecanoe and Wabash River Potawatomi
  • 2.2.8 Fort Wayne Potawatomi

2.4 American removal period (1830–1840)

  • 2.4.1 Early Migrations
  • 2.4.2 Migrations west
  • 2.4.3 Migrations to Upper Canada
  • 2.4.4 Migrations to Wisconsin and Michigan
  • 2.4.5 Non-migration peoples

Thus, leaders will be with the time period information.Chris Light (talk) 16:56, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Assessment comment

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==Stub?==

Would this article still be considered a stub? There's much more to be said, sure...but this seems like a good start.Nareek 03:19, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

==To do to improve== I agree this is a good start. For cues, I think looking at the lengthy Ojibwa article would be good. Whatever that is said here, if applicable to either the Anishinaabe article or to the Council of Three Fires article, should be reflected there as well. So, what specifically to do to improve?

  1. pre-contact history
  2. history since contact
    1. known early contact bands
    2. known early modern bands
    3. contemporary bands — this part is done
  3. re-arrange article section to be a bit more smooth flowing
  4. improve the historical location information
  5. improve the contemporary location information
  6. social structure of the Potawatomi communities
    1. totem — done
    2. family
    3. traditional and major non-traditional faith systems
    4. effects of boarding schools
  7. Indian Removal Policy and its effect onto the Potawatomi communities
  8. language — sectional summary of the article exists but we need some example provided
  9. common contemporary issues all (or most) Potawatomi communities are facing
  10. a "See also" with links to:
    1. famous Potawatomi leaders and other famous Potawatomi
    2. places named after, named by or named with the Potawatomi
    3. treaties and law — start of this already exists
  11. better referencing

CJLippert 18:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

== Revision: New Information ==

According to historical record Abraham Burnett was not known as a Chief. It appears questionable whether he was ever a recognized Chief at all.

http://earchives.lib.purdue.edu/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/gwinter&CISOPTR=823&REC=16

http://www.kansasheritage.org/pbp/books/treaties/t_1826.html


[Removed entry under Chicago Chiefs.] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Infoduck (talkcontribs) 20:30, 16 February 2011 (UTC)

Last edited at 20:32, 16 February 2011 (UTC). Substituted at 03:18, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

T's and D's

Maybe note that in English the t's in /ˌpɑːtəˈwɑːtəmiː/ probably become d's. Jidanni (talk) 22:22, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

Discrepancy in content of page

Header reads: The Potawatomi called themselves Neshnabé, a cognate of the word Anishinaabe.

The first subsection "Name" says: The Potawatomi name for themselves (autonym) is Bodéwadmi (without syncope: Bodéwademi; plural: Bodéwadmik), a cognate of the Ojibwe form

These appear to be in conflict. How should these be resolved? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.118.120.253 (talk) 16:15, 10 September 2019 (UTC)

Ohio

Did their range ever extend into Ohio? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 20:25, 2 September 2020 (UTC)

  • Historic records back to the French arrival period show the Potawatomi reaching southwestern Michigan, which may or may not includes Ohio in the western Lake Erie/Toledo area. --Chris Light (talk) 18:44, 2 August 2021 (UTC)