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List of Cures debate[edit]

So Dora again reverted everything just because it's NOT AS THE JAPANESE WIKI SAYS. Sometimes Over-reling on the Japanese Wiki is sometimes not the best way to get some information because if this [insert cure here] doesn't appear in All-Stars, its not official. Give me a serious break! If that how it is then were restricting a lot of other information that could be important, as in appearances.

It's plain downright stupid. Not including some cures and just over-relying on translating the whole wiki is not gonna work. If a cure appears in the anime and movies, they're official. NOT based on their All Stars appearances!!!--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 16:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In your words, I guess that it relates to those "Pretty Cures" who aren't the part of "All-stars". If it means the crossover series, the "All-stars" would mean the "protagonists/heroines", in a broad way, "All-stars" mean the franchise of Toei, which they use in not only crossover movies but other card game, toy and books etc. This excludes other characters who have the alterego but don't represent the story (which means they are subcharacters), and there are many examples in Toei's Superhero Time or Digimon series, though it must be a bad feeling for fans (like some popular subcharacters who can't even be a superhero). I think it would affect if the introduction isn't with what the staff think.
BTW, the part I mentioned Japanese editors is that they did strict discussion in their talk page, and made the notes to tell what the definition is. Their answer wouldn't be correct (though they have some local information to use), but other wikis need same work to prove it. --Doracake (talk) 13:55, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That is the reason why they shoudn't be excluded. IT doesn't always need to be All-Stars!--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 15:28, 22 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I wish that no one....I mean please no one revert what I just added there. I spent a lot of time just making and adding a lot of new info in the List of Cures and then what, it gets reverted because none of the other Pretty Cures were in the ALL STARS FRANCHISE. Jeez! The All Stars franchise is a cross-over spinoff, it has some importance but basing it there is not the best idea!

The list should remain on what is written there, and please don't revert it since All Stars DOES.NOT.COUNT.--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 03:44, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

In the last reply, I mentioned that All Stars franchise means what the staff use in official sources, not the characters with the same identity in the broad meaning. If it's only your personal "best idea" but no other reference usable, I may have to delete them later or report it. Whatever, I do think you have lots of dedication to this section, but after all as a wiki source it has to be credible and not misleading.
By the way, some notes you made such as fanart spoiler, joking or comparison, are not the necessary information to be used in wiki. Maybe you have to filter them as well. --Doracake (talk) 20:15, 30 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Then what? Jeez it doesn't always need to be All-Stars only.--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 01:35, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
? I thought the previous discussion already ends it already, unless you're not in "discussion".
Briefly, this section enlist mainly the protagonists from each story, and the other fighters who appear in those stories (as subcharacters) are created to fulfill the needs of plot writers. It could be the presumption of the staff as they only put the heroines in their promotion and products.
Again, if you're not giving acknowledged or referrable information but personal thoughts, your contributions would fail.--Doracake (talk) 21:15, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
That doesn't mean you should be like a god-mod or something and decide what should be added and what's not. It's not like you own every Pretty Cure Page in Wikipedia.--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 14:26, 31 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You've confused me if you're not talking about the article itself but against person. If you're not in discussion and "decide what should be added and what's not" by yorself, your contributions would fail. I hope you understand this. --Doracake (talk) 02:25, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
YOU'RE NOT MAKING ANY GOOD SENSE AT ALL! I even can't understand your logic either!--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 05:08, 1 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My concern is if you're really in discussion. In your previous replies, I find it's hard to see giving references or viewpoints to discuss how to improve the article. If you're not in, your contributions or even replies would be invalid, so I hope you can calm down and think more.
If you don't have more opinions, I'd make edition to some of your contributions. --Doracake (talk) 18:25, 6 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
WELL REVERT IT ALREADY! You know what, you're making me damn mad by God-Modding you hear. I'm just editing it and you always revert it for no good reason! Well THERE! You revert it to the most lamest version! HAPPY??? You just ruin all of my hard work and my day!--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) (talk) 15:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Uh, I said I'd edit it if you didn't make replies in that time. As many reasons I explained, I didn't see you were giving reasons available references to explain your edits either. I believe your knowledge about this article, but "all of your work" don't necessarily mean it is acknowledged by other editors, audience and most important, the staff. I hope you can think about it and discuss before paying lots of works. --Doracake (talk) 21:25, 12 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
PreCure series was never on Iranian Pooya TV. Iranian media cannot show girls with bare thighs. However I have double checked official farsi website http://www.pooyatv.ir and there is nothing about such series. I think incorrect data in english wiki page for IRIB pooya https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIB_Pooya is the cause of this mistake. I don't bother correcting wiki page of an Iranian tv but Precure Page must be corrected. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.176.8.122 (talk) 10:05, 1 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

List of Cures table[edit]

The table needs to be deleted entirely. It is a violation of several style guides to have a color-coded table, and it is just generally unnecessary and unwieldy. It takes up nearly a quarter of the page, it duplicates content in the individual season pages, and it's generally full of original research.—Ryulong (琉竜) 20:42, 10 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Indeed. People particularly interested in the characters can visit the relevant articles themselves. Although I am curious as to why the previous descriptions each of the series were removed, as they didn't seem to particularly harmful.Wonchop (talk) 00:38, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I removed it because there wasn't much use of the brief summaries here (also I removed them from the Super Sentai and Kamen Rider pages).—Ryulong (琉竜) 00:40, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'd say the summaries are useful for those wanting a brief summary of each series so they can decide if they want to visit the relevant articles. Wonchop (talk) 01:15, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well if anything they need to be cut down.—Ryulong (琉竜) 08:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm neutral with it. The original Japanese wiki did put it with public agreement, and it's an information of PreCure franchise/ all-star members. Though indeed we can check each series article individually, I don't think the table is necessary or needless. Doracake (talk) 05:51, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just because the other wiki has it doesn't mean this one does.—Ryulong (琉竜) 06:17, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Just exclude the tables completely if no one comes up with an consensus. End of story.--Blackgaia02 (Talk if you're Worthy) 02:57, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
No, in theory, if there is no consensus, then the change isn't made. That being said, I'm in favor of removal as well. I don't know how WP:Anime tends to handle things, but that sort of unwieldly chart is frowned upon in video game articles at least. Sergecross73 msg me 17:04, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The chart was added by an IP editor mid December and it was just accepted on this page. The only reason I initiated this discussion is because we now have a sockpuppeter who after being blocked for only 24 hours for edit warring on Sunday has made a brand new account to make the edits again, so we can now have a proper consensus saying "We don't want this table".—Ryulong (琉竜) 18:05, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, it seems like there's four against and one neutral, so removing would be warranted. Sergecross73 msg me 18:30, 14 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Add a Merchandise Section[edit]

Is it better that we should compile all the merchandise of each Pretty Cure series in this page instead? Maybe that way it's easier to read and navigate and some merch like Bandai Hobby and Premium-related releases can be explained better.--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 23:56, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If you can find reliable sources that discuss the merchandise as being important to the franchise then go right ahead. If you're just gathering information from across the internet to give a list of the different toys that have come out for each season then don't bother.—Ryulong (琉竜) 02:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Well the few important ones I do remember is Bandai collaborated with Kose last year for the Smile Pact Shiny Face Powder (Mentioned in the Smile PreCure page). Then before that, Bandai already been releasing S.H.Figuarts versions of the cures. But I still need some articles in the web for their individual releases.--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 04:48, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
If you're just compiling a list of the toys don't.—Ryulong (琉竜) 06:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
This is not important. Do not put it in the article or put it back into the individual articles where you took the text from.—Ryulong (琉竜) 07:11, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I understand but seriously you need to lighten up for once. You have a personal grudge against me do you? If this is not required then ok but how you respond when you revert my edits comes off to be plain rude.--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 10:40, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You need to assume good faith. I told you it was a bad idea but you went ahead with it anyway.—Ryulong (琉竜) 10:53, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I just got carried away, so sorry.--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Blackgaia, I don't see any evidence of Ryulong being rude here. Blunt and not warm and fuzzy, yes, but not rude. Just because he reverts your edits doesn't in and of itself indicate rudeness. It means he disagrees with you, as he's stated. As for the content dispute itself, you both need to work that out in the usual way. In other words, just because Blackgaia says something should be included doesn't mean it should, and just because Ryulong says something should not be included doesn't mean he's right, either.--Bbb23 (talk) 23:21, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]
    • And that means will still disagree like Cain and Abel. Unless we grasp some fandom opinion which is unsacred to this site. I'll work with him he if lighten up.--BlackGaia02 (talkpage if you dare) (talk) 00:06, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Yes! PreCure 5 or Yes! Pretty Cure 5?[edit]

Since it's not likely to get any response on the article itself, I'm curious as to whether Yes! PreCure 5 should actually be called Yes! Pretty Cure 5, since it predates the "PreCure" romanization introduced in HeartCatch. As far as I recall, I don't think there's any romanization concerning that series. Wonchop (talk) 19:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

If there's English in the title then we use that. If we can't tell then we should stick with "PreCure" because "Purikyua" cannot spell "Pretty Cure".—Ryulong (琉竜) 03:35, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

PreCure vs Precure[edit]

Since the Japanese production seems to romanize the show's name as 'Precure' (with a lower case 'c'), as evidenced in the ED sequences for Dokidoki Precure and the New Stage movies, shouldn't we be using that over 'PreCure' (with a capital 'C') for all series that it would apply to (ie. everything past Heartcatch)? Wonchop (talk) 21:19, 16 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

For now, I've just made it so that Dokidoki is now spelled as DokiDoki! Precure, since that's the only series so far that establishes a full camelcase spelling during its ending sequences. Wonchop (talk) 21:54, 20 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Judging from Go! Princess PreCure's logo (which features all caps, but is written as "PRINCESS PRECURE" with larger letters for the capitals), it does appear "Precure" is the intended casing for all series that require it (ie. those that don't use Pretty Cure in its romanized title). Wonchop (talk) 13:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Season versus series[edit]

Looking to these statements present:

Each Pretty Cure series spans one movie per season as a side story except for:

  1. the original series Pretty Cure, which had no movie
  2. the second series Pretty Cure Max Heart, which had two movies
  3. Yes! Pretty Cure 5 which has two movies within it's two seasons; Yes! Pretty Cure 5 and Yes! Pretty Cure 5 Go Go!

I find this a bit silly, how is YesPC5 an exception here? Whether we consider Cure5 and Cure5Gogo as 2 series or 2 seasons of 1 series, we still get a 'one movie per season' thing going on here, so I'm going to take that last part out, it's not an exception. All that's really happened is that MaxHeart got 2 movies to compensate for the first lacking any, and everything else is utterly balanced 1 film per season, far as I can tell.

Why is it that we would consider GoGo part of PC5 but we don't consider Splash Stars a third season of Futari Wa? Ranze (talk) 04:25, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I totally agree. --EliOrni (talk) 13:29, 4 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2016[edit]

2601:782:180:40:E8D3:2641:EDB:3DF3 (talk) 13:29, 27 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: as you have not requested a change.
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All dates on the table are wrong?[edit]

On at least my end, the dates are listed as being from 1994 to 2014, they're all off by 10 years. I thought to edit it, but the numbers on the editable page aren't wrong, which is really weird. I assume some mistake with the table itself but that's beyond me. 67.232.206.118 (talk) 02:27, 8 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

They're PRETTY wrong, and i tried editing it, but my revision was denied :( 2804:29B8:500A:2BB8:C71:96C:7B75:8470 (talk) 03:37, 9 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Other seasons on Crunchyroll[edit]

Delicious Party and Hirogaru Sky are also on Crunchyroll but don’t seem to be included in the list of seasons on Crunchyroll Lindsey123456 (talk) 03:28, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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