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This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because... (Its a major hotel and resort company in Indonesia. If it is nominated for deletion then you should delete all hotel and resort company pages from Wikipedia ) --M R Karim Reza (talk) 10:20, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I totally disagree with the creators response, there is a lot more to hotel chains than inherent notability, one of the issues here is the creators method of adding references after the creation of the article. Also an attempt at creation of an article in 2016 suggests that a previous attempt failed to assert notability.
The hotel chain's notability may well be open to scrutiny from an outsiders point of view, due to the lack of adequate english sources, however when reviewing the listproperties across the Indonesian archipelago, the chain has economic and environmental footprint that is well worth further scrutiny, and as a consequence an article. Inadequate english language references at creation does not help, however, the chain has adequate ownership of interesting hotels and resorts that are part of the complexities of the Indonesian tourism industry. JarrahTree 10:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@JarrahTree: If you think there's scope for discovering notability then we should give space for that to happen. -Lopifalko (talk) 10:53, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing to discover, it is a notable chain... JarrahTree 10:56, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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