Talk:Princess Katarina of Yugoslavia

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September 2014[edit]

She can really only be Princess of Serbia, as Jugoslavia was always a fiction, and the Serbian Royal Family's assumption as 'Kings of Jugoslavia' was simply a usurpation. Are there documents whereby the Royal Families of Austria and Montenegro etc., willingly gave their thrones over to the Serbs? As we saw both during WWII and from 1991 the peoples within Jugoslavia opposed Serbian hegemony. 86.158.253.217 (talk) 17:32, 23 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 23 June 2016[edit]

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The result of the move request was: moved. Jenks24 (talk) 04:56, 1 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Princess Katarina of Yugoslavia and Serbia → Princess Katarina of Yugoslavia – There are no Princes or Princesses of Serbia anymore since 1918. Princess of Yugoslavia and Serbia is a title that never existed. Gerard von Hebel (talk) 23:59, 23 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Support. I found four articles about her in the Daily Mail, all using the proposed form. The monarchy was abolished in 1945 and the subject was born in 1959. So she never had any actual title, Serbian or Yugoslav. Fernando Danger (talk) 10:47, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]
Support per prevalent usage in such cases involving members of deposed dynasties, as long established and practiced by authoritative texts in this field such as Perthes's Almanach de Gotha, Burke’s Royal Families of the World and the Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser which generally attribute, according to customary standards, the titles once officially recognized to members of these families. In this case the title "Prince/Princess of Yugoslavia" has superseded and replaced "Prince/Princess of Serbia" since 1921. Although in recent years some of these families' websites and/or their royalist supporters have substituted a modern name for the dynasty's historical realm, Wikipedia should only do so when the NPOV literature does so. The most recent edition of the Genealogisches Handbuch which includes the House of Karadjordjavich is that of 1987, lists Katarina as a "Princess of Yugoslavia" on p. 53. FactStraight (talk) 14:16, 24 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article, she is a daughter of a Yugoslavian prince not in line for the throne. So I don't follow the logic by which she is a princess. At any rate, all we can do is follow mainstream sources such as this article in the Daily Mail. The genealogy manuals are marketed mainly to the people listed in them, so I am not sure I would describe them as "authoritative." Fernando Danger (talk) 04:03, 25 June 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Succession[edit]

Leaving aside issues of notability, is she in the line of succession to the British throne, as she is probably Greek Orthodox? PatGallacher (talk) 18:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't disqualify her. Only being Catholic would. 76.202.192.102 (talk) 03:07, 30 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]