Talk:Programmers Guild

Not for Outsourcing see also[edit]

While, for a blip of time, the 'Programmers Guild' article was listed as See also for Outsourcing, the subject of green cards is of importance to the subject of outsourcing; this particular trade group may not be, hence the 16:51, 23 January 2022 removal of 'Programmers Guild' seems quite proper. The same edit removed A. Aneesh, an author whose writings on what he calls Algoracy belong in the page about him, if anyplace, not in Outsourcing, per a move of content some time ago.

As for the Programmers Guild article, the original was WP:PROD'd; that expired, and an admin wrote "concern was: WP:PROMO and mostly self published sources about itself, despite having existed for over 20 years." This is an attempt to see if it deserves to be part of Wiki as a matter of history -- but NOT via mention/SpamLink in Outsourcing's See Also. (As for listing their official website in this attempt, if it survives review: that info was part of a cited NYT article).

A copy of the deleted article was available on Aug. 29 '22 at https://en-academic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/3024644. It credits Wikipedia. I didn't actually look at it until I had searched among NYTimes and done some other basic googles. One of the deleted article's references was worth reading - the register.

WP:OR- so is the Guild pro-immigrant workers or anti? One reading of various items suggests that it's a matter of age. If the worker is 40+ and living legally in the USA, and has a wife and possibly children, then they're pro that person. If the worker is "younger" and seeking to overstay a student visa, 'bye.

As for how did I get to this topic, I was actually looking for something having to do with Caterpillar and found the Outsourcing article mention. A look at action=history found the deletion, and . . . long story longer: I was curious to see if something described by an admin as "having existed for over 20 years" could have also lacked adequate sourcing. Nuts240 (talk) 07:54, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

What were the skills levels at that time[edit]

A 2007 Computerworld article https://www.computerworld.com/article/2541481/the-top-10-dead--or-dying--computer-skills.html (The top 10 dead (or dying) computer skills, Mary Brandel, May 24, 2007) makes it clear that a shift was underway, post-Y2K. The matter of whether COBOL was needed, at that time, might (WP:OR) best be answered by the article's statement "they want to see that on the transcript." How best to integrate this article's content? Not sure. Nuts240 (talk) 08:49, 31 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Book[edit]

Michelle Malkin's Sold Out (book) was co-authored with the Guild's founder. Nuts240 (talk) 01:16, 1 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]