Talk:Ptosis (eyelid)

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Misleading image[edit]

The picture in the article doesn't really show true ptosis because both eyes are too wide open. When one has ptosis (real or temporary) one's eyes droop a bit more than that. One should barely be able to see the person's eye. 24.77.84.175 (talk) 06:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

None of the images are appropriate imo

Infobox image- historic black and white picture
Phineas Gage- the wiki article also states that ptosis was a result of injury, but it is unreferenced. Where was the entry wound located? The article is not clear. If it was the orbit itself suggest that calling the result ptosis might be inaccurate.
Brazillian girl with ptosis- another ancient looking photo, and it is difficult to even see if the subject has ptosis or not.

Please a nice, color, close up of a true case of ptosis. Lesion (talk) 12:50, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Why does a man in a black and white image have a pink blush on his cheek GhostIn$hell (talk) 06:32, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ptosis section[edit]

The section on causes of ptosis has disappeared. Some of them didn't have references but it did seem a valuable section. Potkettle 18:31, 21 December 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I think the lack of references and the extremity of the possible causes makes this a poor section. I think it should either be removed or rewritten, for instance commenting on the most likely causes, such as "The tendon of the levator muscle may loosen or detach, causing ptosis", before suggesting a brain tumour. http://www.oxfordeyehospital.nhs.uk/documents/leaflets/ptosis.pdf could provide a reference, or possibly http://www.eye-care.org.uk/item_view.php?item_id=100&content_id=4

It would be good to get an expert to rewrite the 'causes' section though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.125.41 (talk) 14:09, 19 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oculopharyngeal Muscular Dystrophy (OPMD) is a common but relatively harmless French Canadian trait associated with dysphagia and ptosis. The most common repeats are 6, 7 and 9. If one has a 6-9 combo then one has the dominant form and if one has the 7-7 combo one has the recessive form and if one has 6-6 one doesn't have the condition. ````24.77.84.175 (talk) 23:44, 20 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well Known People with Ptosis[edit]

Paris Hilton??? Didn't know she had this. No mention of it on HER page either. Can we get some citations for these claims?? 80.192.40.63 (talk) 11:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC) John McCain probably does not have ptosis, rather a partial seventh cranial nerve palsy. Ltyore (talk) 05:19, 26 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tegan Quin recently stated that her ptosis had disappeared by itself and was most likely psychosomatic. 193.52.107.200 (talk) 18:56, 4 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Radiohead frontman, Thom Yorke, god bless him. Lesion (talk) 12:43, 13 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Billy Eichner although no luck finding a source
Forrest Whitaker http://madamenoire.com/338575/celebrities-with-physical-deformities/19/
Romesh Ranganathan

CrocodilesAreForWimps (talk) 15:56, 9 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Traditional Chinese Medicine treatment information[edit]

Please do not replace Wikipedia pages with blank content, as you did to Ptosis (eyelid). Blank pages are harmful to Wikipedia because they have a tendency to confuse readers. If it is a duplicate article, please redirect it to an appropriate existing page. If the page has been vandalised, please revert it to the last legitimate version. If you feel that the content of a page is inappropriate, please edit the page and replace it with appropriate content. If you believe there is no hope for the page, please see the deletion policy for how to proceed. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:50, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hi I didn't replace the Wikipedia page on Ptosis (eyelid) with blank content, I only removed the part about traditional chinese medicine treatment. The source used for the info on TCM (http://tcm.health-info.org/5-SENSES/Eye/Eye.homepage.htm) is questionable Peony Muds (talk) 15:29, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

What makes it questionable? - UtherSRG (talk) 15:42, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Wikipedia article on it says that "Questionable sources are those with a poor reputation for fact-checking. Such sources include websites and publications that express views that are widely acknowledged as extremist, are promotional in nature, or rely heavily on rumors and personal opinions." A website claiming that a condition is caused by "Spleen Qi Deficiency" is hardly a mainstream view and it doesn't provide any proof or sources. What next, a section on faith healing treatment? Peony Muds (talk) 16:18, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

But Wikipedia isn't saying that ptosis is caused by that. Wikipedia is saying that TCM says that ptosis is caused by that. - UtherSRG (talk) 17:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia also says that "Questionable sources should only be used in articles about themselves." Peony Muds (talk) 17:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That still doesn't say that this was a questionable source. - UtherSRG (talk) 18:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've already explained why I think the source is questionable. Also that section isn't very good as it contains several chinese words and this is an english article. Unless you can provide a source that proves traditional chinese medicine is a real successful treatment I don't see why it should be listed under treatments for Ptosis (maybe it should be in the article for traditional chinese medicine?) and I will delete it again. If you revert my change again I guess we'll have to ask for comments from more people. Peony Muds (talk) 22:46, 29 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

THOM YORKE LOL —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.246.18.204 (talk) 08:52, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

It is a stigmatic mark done by schizophrenics[edit]

They use cannibally, coprophagy or some obscure traditional herbs to cause the condition and mark people they believe belong to the same family, or to mark people as belonging to the same family. It also means that the person is **seeing** and schizophrenics are receiving the images. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.167.4 (talk) 03:55, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Pronunciation[edit]

How do you pronounce this word? “Toe-sis”? “Pto-sis”? 98.216.67.148 (talk) 22:02, 9 September 2023 (UTC)[reply]