Talk:Pundir

Connection to Pundarik

The information about Pundarik seems to be mostly verifiable, eg: here, but I'm struggling to verify the claim that the Pundir are descended from him. Without that connection, the information really has no part in this article. Can anyone help? - Sitush (talk) 12:17, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Pundir Gurjars

If we google Pundir Gurjar, we find ample results showing the name of Gurjar villages with Pundir Surname in Saharanpur District and interestingly when we search the same term on Facebook we get similar results. If Gurjars have people with this surname then it should be included in the article for the sake of information. The change may therefore be important. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashokharsana (talk • contribs) 00:53, 9 February 2018 (UTC)

Only if you can prove a connection using reliable sources. - Sitush (talk) 18:59, 12 February 2018 (UTC)

According to records we have in haridwar, gurjars (just like 14 OBC societies of India) used this sirname for upward mobilization. Therefore, we should only add the historic record, else writing the truth on wikipedia may hurt the sentiments of other societies. Saurav987sharma (talk) 19:53, 8 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2018

The Pundir (also spelled Pandeer, Pandir, Pundhir, Pundeer or Poondir) is a Suryavanshi clan of Rajputs. The word itself is derived from the Sanskrit word "Purandara" literally meaning "the destroyer of enemy". The Pundir Rajputs hold riyasat in Nahan, Garhwal, Nagaur and Saharanpur where their Kuldevis are situated. Their shakha is Koolwal and their Kuldevis are Shakumbhri Devi in Saharanpur and Rajasthan along with Punyakshini Devi in Garhwal with their gotra being Pulastya and Parashar. Most of the Pundirs are today based mainly around the North Indian states of Rajasthan, Uttar Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh, Uttarakhand and Haryana

ndir clan has its origins with Raja Pundarik, the fourth king in line after Kusha. Pundarik is revered as a Rishi and his temple is situated in Katheugi village of the Kullu district in the state of Himachal Pradesh. The rishi is depicted as a white Nāga and in the Puranic lore Pundarik is the name of a White Naga and the legend of Pundarik Rishi also affirms his birth as a Naga from an earthen pot. Kusha, the first born of Sita & Ram, is said to have been the progenitor of the Pundirs. Kartikey Pundhir. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KARTIKEY PUNDHIR (talk • contribs) 15:58, 26 September 2018 (UTC)

Disambiguating 'John Elliot' and Tyagi source

Like Nanky Blert, I tried to establish who the "John Elliot" was that was quoted and linked. I could not track him down, either. The closest I came, was the source which Heartmusic678 found and added. Unfortunately that work was a dead end, as far as John Elliot goes. Tyagi merely says, "Elliot writes that ..." (i.e. it's not a direct quote from Elliot.) Nor, unfortunately, does Tyagi give any clue as to who "Elliot" is, or list his work in the bibliography. As it's not a direct Elliot quote, I have changed it to be a direct one from Tyagi, rather than Elliot.

In the course of trying to work this out, I came upon a very old WP discussion on Vidya Prakash Tyagi.

The poor attribution and patchy bibliography make me unsure of the reliability of this author, and his purported "source", Elliot.

In the edit summary I left for my edit, I accidentally left out the fact that I removed some text that I could not really make any sense of, and seemed to me uninformative. The rishi is depicted as a white Nāga and in the Puranic lore Pundarik is the name of a White Naga and the legend of Pundarik Rishi also affirms his birth as a Naga from an earthen pot. (Italic text deleted.) It was unsourced. Please feel free to put it back, if it should remain. AukusRuckus (talk) 12:19, 18 October 2021 (UTC)

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