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Two matters[edit]

Relating to this revert withoug edit summary: [1]

1) A bill and an Act of Parliament are not the same thing. Once a bill receives Royal Assent, it is no longer a bill and becomes a law.

2) An Act of Parliament can only be repealed by the legislature. The legislature is currently prorogued, so the Putting Students First Act cannot have been repealed.

The media consistently gets this stuff wrong; i.e. the "government passes secret law" claptrap that was expressed by the mass media in the leadup to the G20 meeting in Toronto. As this is an encyclopaedia, though, we have to stick to the verifiable facts. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 22:20, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It was commonly called Bill 115. My edit is very verifiable since it is from a Toronto Star article which is a very credible newspaper. If you think they're wrong, take it up with the newspaper. The newspaper didn't get it wrong since many news companies in the province has quoted the education minister on the matter. Kingjeff (talk) 00:23, 25 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Common isn't necessarily right. Nor is the media. There are more credible sources than a newspaper that will outline the process necessary to repeal a law and it involves either the legislature or sending the law to the governor-genereal and on to Queen to have her revoke Royal Assent on the advice of the federal Cabinet, after which the governor general must inform both houses of the federal parliament of the event. Did that happen? Was there a sitting of the Ontario legislature we all missed? --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 19:37, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies; I've discovered there was some legal trickery involved with this Act of Parliament (so contrived that the government may have tripped itself up on it). I've added that information into the article. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 20:50, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

From a technical standpoint, you would usually be right. But unfortunately on here, that isn't always good enough for inclusion. The verifiable facts come from credible sources like the Toronto Star, Toronto Sun etc. Kingjeff (talk) 21:23, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I prefer better sources, if they're available. The media is often wrong, especially about legal/constitutional matters. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 02:10, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

How does one challenge the veracity of the content in a Wikipedia article? This article about Bill 115 is so biased and fatally flawed that it really should be removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.110.64.162 (talk) 22:15, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]