Talk:Rade people

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Which parts of Vietnam do they live in? Badagnani 08:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggesting move to Rhade[edit]

I may be wrong but I believe this article should properly be titled "Rhade (people)". E De is the Vietnamese language term for this people group (not the name by which they refer to themselves). Rhade is the standard English language term to refer to these people and their language. I was getting ready to begin a Rhade (language) stub when I found this page after a little research. Some quick feedback will be appreciated or I will move it myself soon.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 16:59, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

We've been using the official Vietnamese designations, and I believe the antiquated usage "Rhade" (though still seen in old books) is not similar to the actual pronunciation used by speakers of this language to refer to themselves. Badagnani (talk) 17:09, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be argumentative but, being this is the English Wikipedia, what's the rationale for using official Vietnamese designations? "Rhade" is the most common (by far) term used in English and is what people coming to Wikipedia for info will search for -- two facts that are far more important in determining which we use than whether or not it is "similar to the actual pronunciation used by speakers...". See for example "Japanese" vs. "Nihongo", "Chinese" vs. etc, etc.--William Thweatt ^Talk | ^Contribs 17:18, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I believe "Rhade"/"Rade" was a French error (also perpetrated in U.S. Vietnam War-era publications) and that Ede/E De is properly used now. It's similar to the way Inuit has largely replaced Eskimo. Badagnani (talk) 20:23, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Ede/E-De spelling convention is more of a recent phenomenon, I'd say within the last decade, while Rade/Rhade dominates much of the academic research during the 1960s and 1970s. yellowtailshark (talk) 20:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]