Talk:Republic of China Navy

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Tables for ships?[edit]

I was wondering if anyone had any objections to organizing the list of ships in the fleet into a table similar to the aircraft in the interest of clarity and saving space? Example below. -Loren 07:03, 16 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Class Origin Type In service Notes
Kee Lung class  United States Destroyer 4 Kidd class
Cheng Kung class  Taiwan Frigate 8 Oliver Hazard Perry class produced under licence by CSBC Corporation, Taiwan.
Chi Yang class  United States Frigate 8 Knox class
Kang Ding class  France Frigate 6 La Fayette class
Hai Lung class  Netherlands Submarine 2 Zwaardvis class
Hai Shih class  United States Submarine 2 Tench class
Hsuhai class  United States Amphibious 1 Anchorage class
Chung Ho class  United States Amphibious 2 Newport class
Chung Hai class  United States Amphibious 10 LST-1
Mei Lo class  United States Amphibious 4 LSM-1
Yung Yang class  United States Minesweeper 4 Aggressive class
Yung Feng class  United States Minesweeper 4 MMW50 class
Ching Chiang class  Taiwan Guided missile patrol 12
Kung Hua VI class  Taiwan Guided missile patrol 1 30 planned but funds currently frozen due to disputes over tendering process.
Hai Ou class  Israel Guided missile patrol 48 Dvora class.
Da Guan class  Taiwan Survey 1

Grammar[edit]

"Aircraft" not "aircrafts", please. John Smith's (talk) 10:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Upper or lower case and general style[edit]

In the tables that list the various aircraft, missiles, etc and anon-IP editor has changed upper case descriptions to lower case ones. For example "maritime patrol aircraft" instead of "Maritime patrol aircraft". I personally prefer upper case, so unless anyone has strong objections I will change them over when I have the time. Otherwise please leave your views here.

Furthermore I agree with Loren's proposal above. I don't like the colour of the current table, nor the fact it's separated. I'll look into carrying out the work when possible. John Smith's (talk) 20:18, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Further to there being no objections, I have changed the table colour to a nice "naval grey" which is more in keeping with the article's theme (the blue-green was not nice). I have also merged destroyers and frigates together into "surface combatants", rather than have a table for one class of ship.

On the matter of aircraft in service, I don't think it would be appropriate using a citation from four years ago. John Smith's (talk) 16:10, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've also made a few edits to try to get the pictures to line up properly and remove clashes between the "edit" links and the pictures - apologies for not getting it on the first edit. John Smith's (talk) 16:15, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One last thing. I changed the patrol ship entry to "Fast Attack Missile Craft", as they all carry anti-ship missiles so there's no point using the more generic "patrol" type. John Smith's (talk) 16:21, 27 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

under construction[edit]

I disagree with removing that information. Saying when something will be completed is not the same as saying its currently under construction. So I will revert its omission to restore that piece of information.Giovanni33 (talk) 23:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

In that case it's also misleading to say 30 are under construction, as they're not. I am changing the entry accordingly. John Smith's (talk) 00:08, 18 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Edits by 24.85.227.16‎[edit]

This editor has been removing wikilinks from all three ROC military pages with no explanation. I have reverted his latest changes as vandalism - please be on the look-out. If he does it again, please report him. John Smith's (talk) 12:44, 1 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removal of flags[edit]

I have restored the flags because Pyl's justification in removing them is invalid - there is no "flag convention". There is a MoS that makes suggestions over how they can be used, but I do not see anything that contradicts their use here.

He has complained that:

  1. The flags make the article difficult to read.
  2. These tables do not fall into the MoS guidelines.
  3. It is confusing to use the ROC flag with the word "Taiwan".

I would respond as thus:

  1. The flags do not make the article difficult to read and actually enhance the tables, making the origins easier to identify.
  2. The MoS gives suggestions, not a finite number of examples, as to when flags can be used. Again, a MoS is not binding and there appropriate people can make their own styles.
  3. It is not confusing at all, because Taiwan is a well known location. On the other hand "Republic of China" is highly confusing. Having "Taiwan" is thus a lot better and as the flag is flown on the island there's no reason not to use it.

On another note I am trimming the arms discussion as most of it is not relevant to the navy. John Smith's (talk) 18:37, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New infobox[edit]

Republic of China Navy
Naval Jack of the Republic of China
Naval Jack of the Republic of China
Active1924-present
CountryRepublic of China
Size23,000 Sailors, 30,000 Marines (2004 est.)
Commanders
Commander In Chief, ROCNAdmiral Kao, Kuang-Chi
Insignia
Insignia[[Image:Rocn.png|70px|Insignia of the ROC Navy]]
Aircraft flown
Multirole helicopterSikorsky S-70 Seahawk Hughes 500MD Defender
PatrolGrumman S-2 Tracker Lockheed P-3C Orion

New infobox for the article. add details as required and remove the <nowiki> tag before posting --Wanders1 (talk) 12:33, 24 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Hai Shih class submarines: One Tench, one Balao[edit]

The article lists both Hai Shih submarines as Tench-class. However, one of them, the former USS Tusk (SS-426), is actually Balao-class. -- 188.194.254.195 (talk) 14:30, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Cheng Kung-class frigates[edit]

Cheng Kung-class frigates were locally built in Taiwan not second hand purchased from the US, there is a entire wiki page about that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.199.203.79 (talk) 06:02, 4 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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