Talk:Republicanism in Barbados

Deletion proposal

I'm opposed to the deletion of this article because: (a) The article is about republicanism in Barbados, not just the proposed referendum. There was a constitutional commission on the republic issue in Barbados, for example. (b) While the proposed referendum never occurred, the article was moved from the previous article on the referendum itself. It can be expanded. (c) The legislation for a republic referendum is still on the statute book, and has been written in such a way that a Prime Minister could advise the GG to set the date for a referendum at anytime. --Lholden (talk) 02:16, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Why Owen $ Arthur already lost Republican Referendum.

1. He doesn’t propose alternative kind of Republican Constitution. Memento Mori! (Australia, November, 6th, 1999)

2. Conspiracy. He even hides from public those kind of Republican Constitution, what he wrote 2 years ago. That means that he afraid of publicity and Barbadian people at all.

3. Full absence of preparation of public opinion during 13 years (from 1994). He occasionally promised to Barbadians to become country a Republic (10 years ago he promised that Barbados will became the first Republic of Millennium; what he will promise 20 years later (from current day)?) instead aggressive long term campaign of Republican PR.

4. Full absence of sequence with terms of promised Republican Referendum. He promised this referendum more than 10 years running, but even after announce by Deputy Prime Minister Mia Mottley in August 2008 on the same date with parliamentary elections he was frightened once more and he postponed promised referendum on indefinite date (may be forever). That means that his party at first will loose elections and than (if the date of Republican Referendum will be fixed) he will loose and referendum too.CrazyRepublican (talk) 23:46, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

effect of the new government

Are they even planning on holding this referendum anymore?74.131.105.46 (talk) 19:19, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

Rename article

The referendum proposal appears to be unofficially "on ice". After making a couple of edits to this page, I think it would make sense to move it to a more general name - in line with other Commonwealth countries, such as Republicanism in Australia, Republicanism in Canada, Republicanism in New Zealand and Republicanism in the United Kingdom. Thoughts? --Lholden (talk) 20:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

Polling?

Has there been any polling on the subject? 101090ABC (talk) 14:05, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

...and then what happened?

This article mentions several moves towards a "republican" form of government, and usually talks about them in the present and future-conditional tenses ("if this proposal comes to fruition", etc.) and then stops talking about them. What happened to the 2008 plan? the 2015 plan? Was the bill defeated? Did the government fall and the bill become a nullity? Did the governor-general die before scheduling? Etc., etc., etc. --Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 14:24, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

Also, quite a lot of the article concerns different past attempts to call a referendum on the issue, and there is even a section about a Referendum Act 2005 being passed which required referendum to be held by August 2008, and that this was then deferred to a future date. And then, nothing. What became of the referendum? Was the Referendum Act 2005 repealed or is it still law? Was a referendum held, or was the Barbados govt afraid that the republican proposal might be defeated, and so decided to just press ahead with the change without a public vote? Feel the article could probably be made clearer on this point. ContraryM1978 (talk) 17:02, 25 October 2021 (UTC)

As the article states, the 2005 Act did not set a date for a referendum, it simply gave the Governor General the ability to call one within a certain timeframe. Patr2016 (talk) 13:37, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

This source suggests that it will occur in November of 2021. See https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/16/barbados-revives-plan-to-remove-queen-as-head-of-state-and-become-a-republic. Jurisdicta (talk) 20:55, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

I added the update tag - reading this article this morning after it appeared on the main page I have no idea how the different events in this page tie together. - car chasm (talk) 16:00, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

More balance needed

This article portrays this issue as more controversial than it is. The "Public Opinion and reactions" section should convey the fact that this move has widespread support. As it stands now, this article is unbalanced. I will add the tag. Desertambition (talk) 22:45, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

If your complaint is with one section, that is where your tag should go. Also, while republicanism may have more support than the article says, you need to provide sources that support your view. TFD (talk) 22:49, 3 January 2022 (UTC)

Agree with @The Four Deuces: - there needs to be reliable sources added. I do agree though that the poll cited that appears to show strong opposition was not reliable. --LJ Holden 03:35, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

@The Four Deuces: Good point about the placement, I will move it now. Desertambition (talk) 09:41, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

It doesn't show strong opposition, in fact it shows a plurality of support for a republic. There are no sources that say the change has "widespread support" beyond the plurality. That explains why the BLP never held a promised referendum or attempted to legislate the change until the had the two thirds majority in both houses required for a constitutional amendment. TFD (talk) 07:48, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, referring to the poll that @Desertambition: removed. --LJ Holden 09:38, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

That was a poll that anyone could respond to and therefore should not be included. What remaining issues are there? TFD (talk) 10:28, 4 January 2022 (UTC)

The political party Solutions Barbados is running on the platform of possibly reversing Barbados being a republic by a nation-wide vote should they win the election.

• Solutions Barbados Political Broadcast Message 2022 - Premiered Jan 14, 2022. CaribDigita (talk) 21:32, 16 January 2022 (UTC)