Talk:Return to Oz (song)

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I am going to add the lyrical analysis tonight when I have time....

This article is written in essay style; it needs encyclopaedising to avoid the fate of an AfD, which would be a shame in my opinion SP-KP 00:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

Does anyone have a source for the jake shears quote in the top part of the article? Since the entire premise ofthe article is based on that quote, it seems as if it should be sourced. Tigger89 02:31, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

Said quote originates from the Brighton 2004 gig found on the "We are scissor sisters....and so are you" DVD. The meaning of the song has been elaborated on in numerous print interviews I myself have read, said quote is merely the easiest to locate for oneself. 86.9.27.44 22:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I dunno, the interpretation sounds POV to me. Could someone reword it so it doesn't sound quite as much like every gay person is on meth? Snoopydance 18:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)

Band genre

The article labels Scissor Sisters as a pop/electronica band. I find the electronica part to be erronous, since the band actually plays the instruments themselves and don't just make the songs on a computer. I'd rather label them as a pop/glam band. Gumdropster 10:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

for what its worth, they were originally electronica - much of their debut album used computer effects instead of drums as at that point they had not enlisted Paddy Boom, their drummer. 86.9.27.44 22:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

So-called original research

The whole "crystal meth addiction" metaphor is in fact in evidence, and this article was partially written by me a long time ago using mostly verbal quotes from the band - hence the lack of solid sources. I happened to look at it to find much had been removed for unverifiability - in order to save as much as I can, I shall now find as many quotes that exist in solid referenceable form as I can. I already found one, within 30 seconds, which begs the question of how hard people looked before blanket reverting this page. 192.173.4.103 09:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

MDMA metaphors in the song?

This is a personal impresion but I've understood some MDMA metaphors from the song, in which MDMA is compared favourably to other drugs. In particular, the use of the term Emerald City (I have occasionally heard it referred to as 'Emeralds' in Europe), as well as the line 'we've left the world of smiles and clenching jaws' which seems to me a typical facial expression of someone on Ecstasy. The impression I got from the line 'what once was Emerald City's now a Crystla Town' is that things were ebtter during the loved-up times of ecstasy use. Like I say, just a personal impression. What do others think? Viable or nonsense? firstfox 09:27, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

Links

Work in progress: collection of quotes and sources below, to be inserted properly when sufficient time:

• http://www.cosmomovieawards.com/ig/20041018.htm <<<< review article mentioning the metaphor
• http://dancemusic.about.com/od/artistshomepages/a/ScisSisIntBD_3.htm <<<< interview with Babydaddy, includes relevant quote - "You'd have to ask Jake about that, I think he wrote with Seattle in mind, with all the crystal meth tragedy over there. To me it's a song about San Francisco and to a lot of others it's about New York but it can be about anywhere. I wouldn't say that it was one specific incident, but I think everyone in the band and in our group of friends has been touched in some way by the problems it's talking about. Its it talking about the problems of the homogenization of the gay community and people losing themselves in self-deprecation, then losing themselves in an escape that's not a positive escape. It's a retracting from reality"
• http://www.planetout.com/news/article.html?date=2007/01/18/6 <<<< news article mentioning the metaphor
• http://www.lifeormeth.com/scissorsisters/4513765633 <<<< reference to this song on a meth awareness site (this site also contains other links that would be good to use as reference)
• http://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/music/2004/02/02/scissor_sisters.shtml <<<< bbc review of debut album, again mentions this song and its meaning
• http://arts.guardian.co.uk/reviews/story/0,,1330622,00.html <<<< review from the guardian of live performance, including mention of song and meaning
• http://www.arjanwrites.com/arjanwrites/2004/08/sizzling_sister.html <<<<< interview with Jake Shears, mentions this song and meaning
• http://www.rainbownetwork.com/Music/detail.asp?iData=21953&iCat=112&iChannel=17&nChannel=Music <<<< album review
• http://www.thebody.com/content/art30508.html <<<< source for existence of a meth problem in gay community
• http://nymag.com/nymetro/urban/gay/features/5948/ <<<< source for existence of a meth problem in gay community
• http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/darkcrystal/facts.html <<<< source for existence of a meth problem in gay community
• http://www.villagevoice.com/people/0525,qmoore,65112,24.html <<<< source for existence of a meth problem in gay community

Why?

This song wasn't released as a single so why does it have it's own article? Freshpop (talk) 19:09, 18 February 2010 (UTC)