Talk:Revolutions per Minute (Rise Against album)

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Review: March 7, 2017. (Reviewed version).

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Promo singles[edit]

If they're ALL promos and are intended for album promotion, I don't see why this can't have a singles list. It's just improper when there are official singles to deal with. dannymusiceditor ^{Speak up!} 03:38, 24 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Revolutions per Minute (Rise Against album)/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Jennica (talk · contribs) 12:20, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Comments by Jennica[edit]

I changed "Credits" to "Personnel" per WP:MOSALBUM and changed "Recorded" to "Studio" in the infobox. Changed the semicolons to bold in Personnel [for screenreader user preferences], changed all "functions" in the personnel to lowercase. I don't really know if that Personnel section needs a div col per se. The formatting for the rest of the article is fine. That's all I have--Jennica✿ / ^talk 12:20, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Wow, thanks! That was a quick and painless review. Famous Hobo (talk) 15:30, 28 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Debating whether or not this line should be in the lead, " They chose Bill Stevenson and Jason Livermore to produce the album, with whom they developed a strong partnership. Recording took place from November to December 2002 at The Blasting Room in Fort Collins, Colorado." - since the information is available in the "Backgrou≈nd and recording" section, the infobox and Personnel. Also, did the album chart? If so, a chart should be made. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 00:18, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Personally, I think it's important to have those two lines in the lead, as it gives the read a time period of when the events took place, and who were the major contributors to the album. But that's just my personal opinion, I can remove the part about the strong partnership. And while the album did chart, it only reached the Independent Albums chart. The position is mentioned in the release section, and while I do understand that it's common practice to have a charts section, I don't see the point in having an entire section dedicated to one minor chart that has already been discussed previously in the article. However, I also have no opposition to adding the chart section. Famous Hobo (talk) 08:02, 29 November 2016 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:Revolutions per Minute (Rise Against album)/GA2. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: MarioSoulTruthFan (talk · contribs) 19:35, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Your article will be reviewed during this weekend. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 19:35, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Infobox[edit]

November–December 2002 → Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is space on both sides.
Please remove "FAT 653-2" as the vinyl has a different number, RPM10 bonus tracks has another.

Done

Lead[edit]

critics → music critics + wikilink to music journalism
No need for that source here since its already in the article.
You should include that some promotion was done by Touring or something in that vein.Add the name of the tours and if possible the years they took place.

Done

Background and recording[edit]

Place the picture on the left.
Do you know why Dan Wleklinski left the band?
They eventually decided on Bill Stevenson, the former drummer of the punk band Descendents, to produce the album → you should add reference 5 as well to have all this information here.
The second "Stevenson" → the former
McIlrath was nervous → He was nervous

Done

Composition[edit]

darker → "darker"
power chords → "power chords"
personal strife → "personal strife"
I can't find "bolstered by McIlrath's "acerbic" screaming vocals." in the sources you provided. Plus the sentence I just mentioned is not in the All MUsic source, missing the author of that.
"Voices Off Camera" is not on newspunk.org source, add other source?
moody breakdown and catchy chorus → "moody breakdown and catchy..." It doesn't say a single thing about the chorus.
With "Blood-Red, White & Blue" → With it
switches tempo constantly and uses a guitar-based lead into the chorus → "switches tempo constantly and uses a guitar-based lead into the...chorus"

Done

Release and reception[edit]

I would remove Exlaim from the box score, because you say positive. I could say favorable and then its back and forth with that.
Should add the name of the tour "Japanese Fat Tour" and the place of the concerts Tokyo, Shinjuku...as the concerts took place there.
Warped (Tour) → where did it take place?
Could you find the years tours took place? (example:2004-2005) One already has 2003 so its pretty explainatery by itself.
critics → music critics + wikilink to music journalism
The Virginian-Pilot's Jeff Maisey → could you expand this review?
Davey Boy of Sputnikmusic felt that with Revolutions per Minute, Rise Against took their craft and musicianship more seriously, and commented → Davey Boy of Sputnikmusic felt that with Revolutions per Minute Rise Against took their craft and musicianship more seriously. He commented
while it is not altogether successful as an isolated grouping of songs, the band should be given credit for how even and consistent the album still is, and for the fact that it is a solid and cohesive listen. → use more often you own words.

Done

Legacy[edit]

I just don't like the name of this section. Because in the first section its quite accurate but the rest just doesn't have anything to do with this. Could you suggest other name? I can't think of anything as I write this.

Track listing[edit]

I need sources for both track listens.
No total length for the RPM10 release?

Done

Personnel[edit]

Use {{spaced ndash}} so there is space on both sides.

Done

References[edit]

Don't wikilink twice. examples: punknews.org; exclaim, allmusic...please fix this issue.

Done

External links[edit]

Songs are not available. Please remove.

Done

Overall GA review[edit]

Should add chart positions section in a wikitable, only one chart though.
Easy fixes. Good luck, ping when you are done. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 17:57, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Famous Hobo: are you still up for this? MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:39, 26 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi @MarioSoulTruthFan:. Sorry about the late response, real life has been rather hectic, as usual. Anyway, I've taken care of every comment except for a few:

I couldn't find the years that the Japanese Fat Tour took place.
The Virginian-Pilot didn't give a review, it was simply the author stating: "While indie punk band Rise Against released the best CD of 2003, "Revolutions Per Minute," without question the two CDs with the greatest impact on the music industry were Evanescence's "Fallen" and 50 Cent's "Get Rich or Die Tryin'." I could remove it if you'd like, as it seems to be an off-handed comment.
The album playlist at the bottom of the page was added by another user. I've seen it on quite a few other album pages. Their reasoning is "This is a licensed stream for the album, which is allowed under Wikipedia polices." According to the video descriptions, the songs are provided by The Orchard, so that's why I wasn't too worried about including it. Honestly, I could go either way with the playlist. Famous Hobo (talk) 03:01, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Famous Hobo: regarding the later you should still remove because as of right now it has no songs at all, once they became available WW you can add them. What do you mean by "an off-handed comment", is it out of place? Regarding the years is fine. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 18:27, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Famous Hobo: leave the comment there, it's quite accurate and adds praise. I believe the critic is trying to say that it was the best of 2003, yet the other two had way much more impact. Just missing the "legacy" section I would like another name for it, I see why the name of "legacy" was chosen, but when you only have one critic backing it up. Perhaps "influence", "impact"? IDK. MarioSoulTruthFan (talk) 20:01, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MarioSoulTruthFan: Alright, changed the section heading to Impact and re-release. I believe all of you comments have now been addressed. Thank you for taking up the review! Famous Hobo (talk) 22:31, 6 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]