Talk:Ronald F. Youngblood

External links modified[edit]

Hello fellow Wikipedians,

I have just added archive links to 2 external links on Ronald F. Youngblood. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add {{cbignore}} after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add {{nobots|deny=InternetArchiveBot}} to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:

When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.

This message was posted before February 2018. After February 2018, "External links modified" talk page sections are no longer generated or monitored by InternetArchiveBot. No special action is required regarding these talk page notices, other than regular verification using the archive tool instructions below. Editors have permission to delete these "External links modified" talk page sections if they want to de-clutter talk pages, but see the RfC before doing mass systematic removals. This message is updated dynamically through the template {{source check}} (last update: 18 January 2022).

If you have discovered URLs which were erroneously considered dead by the bot, you can report them with this tool.
If you found an error with any archives or the URLs themselves, you can fix them with this tool.

Cheers.—^{cyberbot II}_{Talk to my owner:Online} 14:11, 29 January 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society ‎[edit]

@StAnselm: the Journal of the Evangelical Theological Society ‎does not appear to be a "major, well-established academic journal." Is there a different publication you're thinking of? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:18, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it is - it was established in 1958. St Anselm (talk) 18:19, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And that makes it major how? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:24, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

No, that makes it "well-established". Here is a reliable source calling it a major journal. St Anselm (talk) 18:37, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

It calls it a "major journal of conservative American theology" which is not the same as calling it a major journal, it needs to be major within the larger subject area (theology) not just within "conservative American" circles. Thats two qualifications too many. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 18:43, 27 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I just added his Festschrift (though it was already cited in the article), so now the subject passes WP:PROF #1. St Anselm (talk) 02:28, 28 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

A festschrift does not pass WP:PROF #1, its not an independent reliable source. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 14:52, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Yes it does: Wikipedia:Notability (academics)#Specific criteria notes, 1c. And removing it is borderline vandalism. St Anselm (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

"except in the case of publication in vanity, fringe, or non-selective journals or presses." such as Zondervan which is a non-academic commercial non-selective press. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:24, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not in the slightest. St Anselm (talk) 15:32, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Which part do you disagree with? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 15:36, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Well, just the first and the third. It is commercial, but it is academic and selective. St Anselm (talk) 15:41, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

See their website for more info. St Anselm (talk) 15:59, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Not seeing links to any notable academic institution, what am I missing here? They also appear to engage in activities (for instance publishing their own online courses[1] under the "Zondervan Academic" brand) which are solidly outside of what an academic publisher does. They appear purely commercial, even the imprint with "Academic" in its name. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Having spent some time researching similar cases I now believe that the festschrift does indicate notability even if from a commercial publisher. I withdraw my assertion. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much for your integrity. St Anselm (talk) 16:53, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]