Talk:Rosetta Stone (software)

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catagory?[edit]

Would anyone like to make a language learinging software catagory? Collingsworth 00:01, 21 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Online[edit]

Should it be mentioned that a free version of this progra can be found on kcls.org? --Wootmasterflex 05:25, 2 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Considering it's only available to members of the library, and you must be a resident of the area around Seattle, I'd say probably not.Geoffrey Spear 23:33, 7 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

en espanol?[edit]

Why is there a reference to Rosetta Stone en Espanol? Shouldn't such a link exist on the spanish version of this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.138.189.97 (talk • contribs) 01:54, 20 October 2006

Criticism and Reviews[edit]

Are there any newer criticism and review articles? The current two are 10 years old - surely they've updated the software since then, if only to put them on CDs instead of floppy disks! 206.154.229.139 12:54, 20 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The return policy is not a "Criticism of version 2.0".83.189.15.224 (talk) 09:07, 23 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found the criticisms in this article pretty harsh for a language product that is generally reviewed as the top 3 language products in the world. maybe they should expand the award section to balance out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.118.90 (talk) 20:47, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Do you want to cite a source for that "top 3"? Prof Wrong (talk) 13:26, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Criticism section is missing any mention of a problem that is retold again and again across the Internet: the high cost of Rossetta Stone. Of course Rossetta Stone is a one-stop solution whereas to find free/cheap alternatives to may involve a bit more investigative legwork, and may require the use of not-quite-as-good materials or multiple websites. 94.193.93.109 (talk) 00:56, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Russian[edit]

The article has:
As an example, he noted that one early lesson depicts two people rowing and associates it with the English phrase "They are using a boat." In Russian, this is rendered literally as "Они пользуются лодкой." But, according to Kaiser, no native Russian speaker would use the verb "use" in that context, preferring instead verbs specific to water-based travel, "Они плывут/катаются на лодке", "They are sailing/riding in a boat."
What native English-speaker would say "They are using a boat." anyway?? The English phrase is 'marked' as awkward, and if the Russian sounds similarly 'marked', then it is an appropriate translation/interpretation! The real question is why such a 'marked' phrase (in English) was included to begin with. —DIV (128.250.247.158 (talk) 01:59, 7 May 2009 (UTC))[reply]

not sure what early lesson hes talking about 0_0. i actually use the software and put in a lot of hours. there is an early picture that says "a boy and a girl are in a boat". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.130.118.90 (talk) 20:44, 9 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

According to the article Russia has yet to discover the Paper Towel.... amazing. - Gr33do —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.172.159 (talk) 05:11, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

In the spanish version of this article the date for the russian study is given as 2007; in english it is 1997. Which is correct? 93.222.120.96 (talk) 05:10, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

License[edit]

Bihco: Why did you remove the entire new section regarding criticism of the license? If you felt the wording was "weasley", why not edit or ask for an edit? If you felt the criticism was not relevant or not documented, say that. Simply removing the entire criticism with no justification seems biased and unfair. User:kevinbsmith 03:01, 9 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.180.110 (talk) [reply]

Third Party Adaptations[edit]

There is a homebrew software for the Playstation Portable which allows Rosetta Stone users to put thier language cds on the memory stick and use basic Rosetta Stone features wherever they are. Should this be mentioned? It can be found at poorlywritten.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.20.127.229 (talk) 22:40, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

of course man! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.218.26.143 (talk) 23:15, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Theoretical Underpinnings?[edit]

The article uses company-created marketing buzzwords like "dynamic immersion", but it would be nice to have something about the theoretical basis of the software -- is it simply based on the software authors' intuitions about how people use / learn language? -or- Is it based on some rigorous scholarly linguistics / pedagogy research (in which case it would be nice to have references to the relevant books / journal articles and discussion of the specific, relevant pedagogical techniques employed)? Further, it would be nice to see some sort of peer-reviewed study of efficacy (rather than anecdotal comments in the discussion page with the flavour of "I liked this version." / "I didn't like how it handled this case in that version."). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.111.69.62 (talk) 15:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

New Infobox Picture[edit]

The current image in the infobox is from Version 2 of Rosetta Stone. I was thinking of replacing it with a screen from the more recent Version 3. If anyone has any input on that, I would like to hear it. RedPen72 (talk) 05:40, 18 March 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Designer?[edit]

I'm not an expert, so I thought I'd check before editing. The info box on the article says Michael Phelps is the designer. Yes, it links to the swimmer. He didn't design it, right? Someone's being funny, I expect. Would someone be so kind as to fix that with the correct info? Nutgraph (talk) 01:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looked up the info and corrected it myself. Not sure how to add the reference code correctly. Would appreciate it if someone could append that. Source was http://www.rosettastone.com/global/history Nutgraph (talk) 01:39, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Source[edit]

This just came out in the Washington Post, might be useful:

Lazo, Alejandro (11 May 2009). "On Wall Street, Rosetta Stone Tries New Lingua Franca". The Washington Post. Retrieved 11 May 2009.

rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 16:22, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Languages[edit]

Under the list of available languages, it listed "Filipino (Tagalog)". I went ahead and changed it considering that the language is "Tagalog" and it is spoken by the Filipino people. Also, all of the other languages had language listed first and then the country. (Ex. "American (US)" and "Spanish (Spain)"). —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.211.89.3 (talk) 06:15, 2 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Split??[edit]

I didn't see any discussion before the article was split in two.

Really I don't see how you can justify having two articles when the company Rosetta Stone really only has one major product, but sells a couple of extra bits on the side.... Prof Wrong (talk) 20:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

They're still two recognizably separate things. The articles aren't duplicating any information. Also, with the company going public, there's more information about their corporate affairs now than before, so it's helpful to have a separate article to have all that in rather than mix it in with the software information, which there is a lot of already in here. Gary King (talk) 20:54, 17 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

This looks like an ad for Rosetta Stone[edit]

Why is there an article for Rosetta Stone, but not for Tell Me More? Why is the criticism section blank? I bought Rosetta Stone German Level One. It worked for a few days, then the microphone stopped working. I tried a different microphone, but it still didn't work. I googled the problem and found that it is widespread with Rosetta Stone - on Windows, Linux, and Apple. Ray Eston Smith Jr (talk) 16:32, 28 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Short answer: because someone wrote an article for Rosetta Stone, but not one for Tell Me More. You're free to write one yourself, of course. Prof Wrong (talk) 11:39, 31 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

S To C Corp in History[edit]

Why is the type of tax status a corporation uses of interest to the reader of this article? It doesn't change anything about the company.

(In case you don't know, the income of an S-Corp is reported and taxed on the owners' individual tax returns. The income of a C-Corp is taxed at the Corporate level. That's it.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.83.116.10 (talk) 13:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Rosetta Stone for morphology-rich languages?[edit]

I added the following text:

«Basically, Rosetta Stone is a program for learning vocabulary. It does not contain components analysing the grammar of the input given by students, and it is overall less fit for languages with rich morphology.»

... and it was removed. Now, on an afterthought I must admit that I do not know the intention of the persons making the program. But Rosetta has no component that gives a grammatical analysis of free user input (morphological analysis). Therefore, it has less to offer such languages. The way of disagreeing with me is not to revert the edit (I will then drop the first sentence and revert it back) but to argue against me, and show that Rosetta actually is able to analyse free input (sentences with inflected words). Trondtr (talk) 20:46, 29 November 2011 (UTC).[reply]

"Available in" languages[edit]

I think the "available in" section of the software template is causing some confusion. This is part of the standard software template and should refer to the language of the software (on-screen instructions etc). I would be surprised if RS had translated the software into all the languages it teaches... certainly I would be very surprised to see it in Welsh or Irish...! Prof Wrong (talk) 13:27, 8 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

new "List of Language Self-Study Programs"[edit]

I am looking for comments on a draft new Wikipedia article, User:Numbersinstitute/List of Language Self-Study Programs. Please improve the draft or discuss it on its Talk page. Numbersinstitute (talk) 00:41, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A professional wikipedian needs to add the news that Cambium Learning recently announced the acquisition of Rosetta Stone (software). Source: https://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2020/08/31/cambium-learning-rosetta-stone.html dated 08/31/20, updated 09/01/20 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:8081:2040:1A7C:F986:FD23:734E:6703 (talk) 22:50, 29 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fairfield Language Technologies[edit]

Fairfield Language Technologies are brought up without any explanation of the relationship between Fairfield Language Technologies and Rosetta Stone. The lede says Rosetta Stone is made by the Rosetta Stone company, whereas the package I bought says Fairfield Language Technologies. Can someone clear the relationship up? Kdammers (talk) 06:05, 10 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Why was the history removed?[edit]

Mr. Allen Stoltzfus invented this elearning idea of comprehensive input. He was 30 years ahead of his time. If he would be alive today (and still have a say in the company) it would be a completely different product. I witnessed the unfavourable transformation of the Rosetta Stone software over the past 3 decades into what is the lacklustre and miserable software it is today. They don't even care to use proper UTF-8 fonts for languages like Vietnamese. It's a marketing and business enterprise since Tom Adams took over, with not a single person in the company who understands or cares about user experience and elearning software. The history part (See revision history 16:55, 3 June 2010‎) should be restored to pay tribute to Mr. Allen Stoltzfus and his original idea. 112.197.56.121 (talk) 03:09, 13 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]