Talk:Round University Ranking

Contested deletion[edit]

This page is not unambiguously promotional, because... (your reason here) --Vittoriona (talk) 14:50, 4 March 2016 (UTC) I'm the official representative of the Round University Ranking from Russia. I wrote this article by myself and ready to provide more information about the RUR. RUR is Russian social project with international significance. We're working with institutes all over the world - you can see it on the official web site of the company. Also I would like to add the link to the Russian Wiki https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_University_Ranking. If I has done smth wrong I'm ready to fix mistakes.[reply]

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Indication of deletion controversy above. Significant coverage in cited sources, specifically: [1], [2] ~Kvng (talk) 20:49, 15 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

New page version[edit]

Dear moderators, Please, accept our sincere apologies for breaking the Wikipedia rules. The employee who was responsible for editing the page did not put us on notice about his actions and the information he filled in was not agreed on. Currently the situation is being held and taken under control by the management of the RUR Agency. Is it right that the article should be brief (facts only) and should contain quotations from the articles which describe the company’s activity.

We have the following amount of mentions of our ranking in English:

Blog of Richard Holmes http://rankingwatch.blogspot.ru/2015/09/looking-inside-engine-structure-of.html http://rankingwatch.blogspot.ru/2015/09/from-russia.html http://rankingwatch.blogspot.ru/2016/01/aussies-not-impressed-with-an-more.html

Caltech: https://www.caltech.edu/content/university-and-college-rankings

Thomson Reuters: http://thomsonreuters.com/en/press-releases/2014/thomson-reuters-powers-worlds-leading-university-rankings.html http://stateofinnovation.thomsonreuters.com/the-worlds-most-innovative-universities

IREG Observatory: http://ireg-observatory.org/en/index.php/325-new-ranking-from-russia

National Research Nuclear University MEPhI: https://mephi.ru/eng/content/news/1812/97069/

National Research University of Electronic Technology: https://eng.miet.ru/event/73297

Saint Petersburg Electrotechnical University "LETI": http://www.eltech.ru/en/university/news/leti-improved-resluts-in-round-university-ranking

Voronezh State University: http://www.vsu.ru/english/news/feed/2015/12/6517

Comenius University in Bratislava: http://staryweb.uniba.sk/index.php?id=1308&tx_ttnews%5BpS%5D=1424754679&tx_ttnews%5Btt_news%5D=3777&tx_ttnews%5BbackPid%5D=1733&cHash=bc8dfbf9a2

Research information: http://www.researchinformation.info/news/news_story.php?news_id=1795

Tomsk State University: http://en.tsu.ru/news/tsu_entered_the_top_200_of_the_world_ranking_of_universities_for_quality_education/

Baku State University: http://libinfo.bsu.edu.az/en/news/bsu_is_in_the_list_of_top_750_universities_of_the_world

RIA News: http://ria.ru/society/20151215/1342457131.html

Interfax: http://edu.interfax.ru/articles/293/

The following mentions are in Russian:

Kommersant: http://www.kommersant.ru/doc/2905128

Project 5-100:http://5top100.ru/about/more-about/

TASS: http://tass.ru/obschestvo/2529172

TASS: http://tass.ru/obschestvo/2230097

RIA News: http://ria.ru/society/20151215/1342457131.html

Interfax: http://edu.interfax.ru/articles/293/

Science and technology: http://strf.ru/material.aspx?CatalogId=221&d_no=97925#.VulkD-KLTIX

National University Ranking: http://unirating.ru/news.asp?lnt=6&id=445

Russian Education: http://www.edu.ru/news/education/v-top-200-mezhdunarodnogo-reytinga-rur/

Sign: http://www.vz.ru/society/2015/12/15/783901.html

etc.

Could you please explain us once again, what the article should and should not contain? We attach the new version of the article below and are looking forward to hearing your comments on it. We are truly grateful for your understanding and help!

Round University Ranking (RUR Ranking) is a world university ranking, assessing effectiveness of 750 leading universities in the world based on 20 indicators distributed among 4 key dimension areas: teaching, research, international diversity, financial sustainability.^[1]^[2] RUR Ranking has been publishing since 2010.

Methodology The RUR rankings are based entirely on InCites, the evaluation and benchmarking engine from Thomson Reuters for scientific search. The raw data for RUR Ranking is provided within a special annual survey run by Thomson Reuters - Global Institutional Profiles Project (GIPP).^[3]^[4] Altogether there are 20 indicators divided into four groups: teaching, research, international diversity and financial sustainability. The first two groups have a weighting of 40 per cent each and the latter two 10 per cent.^[5] The final methodology also included the weighting signed to each of the 20 indicators, shown below^[6]

Apart from the main Overall Ranking, that is calculated basing upon 20 indicators in accordance with the methodology described above, in the RUR system there do exist additional ratings echoing the main groups of rating indicators:^[7] • Teaching Ranking • Research Ranking • International Diversity Ranking • Financial Sustainability Ranking Notes: Round University Rankings contain all of the indicators used in the Times Higher Education (THE) world rankings, except for the “industry innovation: income” indicator. They also include some additions such as national and international measures of teaching reputation, citations per academic and research staff, papers per academic and research staff, papers per research income and normalised citations impact.^[8] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vittoriona (talk • contribs) 07:07, 24 March 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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A question about the article[edit]

Hello, dear editors! My name is Polina Kazakova, I represent RUR Agency Team. Could you explain the reasons why article of our company still have a mention of it's multiple issues. We received three propositions concerning the improvement of our article and made them all. First off, we rewrited the text. It became encyclopedic containing only facts about our company without any ideas about brand promotion. We understood that the previous text was wrong. However, is the new text meet the requirements of Wikipedia politics or maybe we need to write it even more stiffly? After that, we added references to independent sources as corroboration. Finally, we listed a lot of major independent news media, which published our ranking’s results a number of times. Could you tell me what else should we do in order that our article become encyclopedic? Maybe the reason is that only our company workers edit the text and we need independent user to edit it? Does ‘General notability guideline’ means that Wikipedia editors think that information about global university ranking does not worth it’s own article? I would be really grateful if you could give me a full detailed reasons of why this article can’t be encyclopedic. Looking forward to hearing from you. Eligeil (talk) 14:56, 16 September 2016 (UTC)Eligeil[reply]

[1] ttp://rankingwatch.blogspot.ru/2015/09/looking-inside-engine-structure-of.html

[2] ttps://mephi.ru/eng/content/news/1812/97069/

[3] ttp://www.researchinformation.info/news/news_story.php?news_id=1795

[4] ttp://thomsonreuters.com/en/press-releases/2014/thomson-reuters-powers-worlds-leading-university-rankings.html

[5] ttp://ireg-observatory.org/en/index.php/325-new-ranking-from-russia

[6] ttp://roundranking.com/library/methodology.html

[7] ttp://ireg-observatory.org/en/index.php/325-new-ranking-from-russia

[8] ttp://ireg-observatory.org/en/index.php/325-new-ranking-from-russia

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