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Former good article nomineeRuby Lin was a Media and drama good articles nominee, but did not meet the good article criteria at the time. There may be suggestions below for improving the article. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
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September 14, 2008Good article nomineeNot listed

Profile[edit]

The info in the section "Profile" is a direct copyvio from [1] so I removed it. Most of it was irrelevant to the article, anyway - AKeen 16:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

An old & new article I found online for references[edit]

Ruby Lin Poses for New Pics http://english.cri.cn/3086/2007/12/22/176@307027.htm

Huayi Brothers Flaunt Stars http://english.cri.cn/3086/2007/05/31/1261@233544.htm

Ruby Lin Admits to Relationship with Director Stanley Tong http://english.cri.cn/3086/2007/12/01/1221@300415.htm

BQ 2006 Big Name Awards Held in Beijing http://english.cri.cn/3086/2007/01/30/63@190767.htm

Ruby Lin Poses for Household Brand http://english.cri.cn/349/2005/10/05/271@23168.htm

China's 1st TV Musical to be Debuted http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/349/2005/12/10/44@35651.htm

Stars Picked for Middle School Lessons http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/349/2005/10/24/44@26423.htm

"Underground" Adapted to TV Drama http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/349/2005/09/12/60@18910.htm

Jackie Chan To Hold Charity Concert in Shanghai http://en.chinabroadcast.cn/349/2005/08/11/60@8213.htm

Spokespeople of "Fresh Beauty" http://english.cri.cn/3086/2006/10/04/202@146776_7.htm

Mainland, Taiwan Karaoke Stars Team up in Beijing http://www.china.org.cn/english/entertainment/213253.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Junegarfild (talk • contribs) 18:40, August 22, 2007 (UTC).

Feng Xiaogang Shoots Short Olympic Film Promos http://english.cri.cn/3086/2007/08/23/63@265123.htm —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kateyong (talk • contribs) 10:17, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

Re-organize Article[edit]

Commercial work list pretty unbalanced. I edited the list instead of having one long which looks somewhat sloppy. And I think there should be more information about her early life and rise to prominence, as well as more details about her career. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Junegarfild (talk • contribs) 18:20, August 22, 2007 (UTC).


Huang Zhu Gege[edit]

She was in also in Huang Zhu Gege (I)...so why does it only list the second one under "Television series"?

what do you mean? that article included both 1,2. Joanlee 01:23, 26 Oct 2006 (UTC)

Watch the POV[edit]

Just a friendly reminder...the POV in this article is quite biased, in my opinion. Just look at the beginning, with sentences like:

  • "Taiwan' s number one female star" (what statistic determines this?)
  • From her outstanding performance in the top-rated Chinese TV series Princess Huanzhu (还珠格格) (Huan Zhu Ge Ge did get very good ratings which have been recorded, but her performance in the series is an opinion, not a fact)
  • "Her shimmering magnificence" (again, opinion, and that sounds more like a fansite than an informative article)

Please keep a neutral POV. - Lulu288 19:23, 24 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I have had to revert changes to this talk page several times. Please do not delete the comments of other users from talk pages other than your own, as this is considered vandalism Lulu288 20:01, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I've edited the opening and early life sections to adhere to a neutral POV.PeRiDoTs13 14:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)PeRiDoTs13[reply]

Here are some statistics on peacock terms, words or phrases to watch for, appearing in the article at the moment:

  • top 16
  • popular 15
  • best 6
  • famous 5
  • major 2
  • well-known 1
  • beautiful 1
  • classic 1
  • influential 1
  • leader 1

I'll do some copy-edit to bring the article closer to NPOV XLerate 14:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Roger that. Pandacomics 16:55, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

More Photos[edit]

I think this article needs more photos...first of all, a photo in the infobox would be helpful, and also some pics of her on magazines, etc. Junegarfild 17:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC) 


     There are lots photo of her at http://gallery.rubystation.com/ please feel free to use those    
     picture if needed for this article. Also These are Ruby Lin's gallary in China site
    Sources:
    baidu : http://image.baidu.com/i?tn=baiduimage&ct=201326592&lm=-1&cl=2&word=%C1%D6%D0%C4%C8%E7&t=51
    Sina : http://ent.sina.com.cn/download/photo/linxinru.html
    Tom ; http://ent.tom.com/piclibs/linxinru/index.html


Male co-stars section[edit]

Is this section really necessary? It seems like this was included solely in order to speculate about her romantic life.PeRiDoTs13 14:28, 2 September 2007 (UTC)PeRiDoTs13[reply]

Alec Su is Ruby's greatest love of all time. I do think that they belong together. Their relationship is currently under careful speculation of scrutinizer's in the media. They have made at least four movies together, are in the same office of department, and are often seen out to dinner wearing sunglasses. Also, don't you think it's curious that they just HAPPEN to disappear and reappear at the same time during a lunch break while shooting? Think!

I've lived with my mom for over 15 years, does that make me my mom's greatest love of all time? No, that honour goes to my dad. I've done a commercial before as an extra, and it's perfectly normal for guys and girls to talk to each other about everyday things. I think it's you who has to do some thinking. Pandacomics 01:41, 23 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

A large - no, humongous - number of "sources" used in this article are either 1) not verifiable because they come from FORUMS, or 2) are replacable by getting out of your way to find a Chinese-language original. Pandacomics 20:05, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Remove Section[edit]

Male co-stars section removed. I am wondering what all of your opinions were on whether or not we should remove that section all together. I don't think it's really necessary. I jumped into removed that section without consultation. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shshmijung (talk • contribs) 17:08, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

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GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from [[{{subst:Ruby Lin}}]]. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Short review

  • "Endorsements" part should be re-organize by year, or sort of product.
  • "Stardom, 2003-present" is not a very neutral heading title
  • "Personal quotes" part should have more information with citations
Personally, I don't think "Personal quotes" should even be there unless you can fuse it within the prose (as is the case with the other block quotes). POV still remains a problem with the two major acting sections. Pandacomics (talk) 10:22, 12 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I agree w/ Pandacomics about personal quote part. Deleted some words (top, popular, best, influential ..etc) or phrases to watch for POV. Still need more edit. And I don't think both "Endorsements" and "stardom" title has problem. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Getdownbe (talk 10:38, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"Stardom" is already a POV title. Pandacomics (talk) 18:24, 13 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review 2[edit]

I'm taking over this review. Here's what I found during my initial look through the article:

  • The lead should be about 3 or 4 paragraphs summarizing all the main points of the article.
  • Header tips: 1) only the first letter of the first word and proper nouns should be capitalized - Edited some
  • See WP:DASH for correct dash usage. I see some definite problems here.
  • Citations should be after punctuation without a space between the citation number and the punctuation character. Try to do this as best as possible, although there are times when it is impossible.
  • "4th" and "2nd" - spelling these out is much more professional - Done
  • "Ruby Lin in the media" - it is best to avoid putting the subject of the article in the headers. Simply "Media" would be much better. - Done
  • The quote in "Harassing calls" needs a source. - Done
  • Personal quotes should be removed or integrated into the text (with sources!). Actually, it would be best to move them to WikiQuote. - Done
  • Image:Clipcapturedpic.jpg needs a fair use rationale. - Done
  • Please see WP:EL about appropriate external links to list. For example, fansites are not allowed unless they are official. - Done
  • A general copyedit would do a world of good. I saw missing punctuation, capitalization mistakes, spacing mistakes, etc.

The article will remain on hold for one week to allow for improvements. Thanks. Nikki311 22:38, 7 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The seven days are up, and there hasn't been enough improvement to pass the article. I'd recommend a good copyedit, as that would fix the majority of the issues that are left. A peer review may also be helpful. Good luck! Nikki311 17:39, 14 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sources[edit]

I think we have a nice long list of sources here, however... would anyone out there mind translating everything into English? Me and another user worked extensively on Ayumi Hamasaki and it went through two peer reviews, two FA reviews (failed), and good article review (pass; which is what its status is currently). We were told to translate all the Japanese and Chinese sources into English, and he did so promptly. I can read some of the sources but I'm too lazy to go translate everything. I think it would really help this article move up in its status. Lady Galaxy 20:08, 28 August 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Copyediting for 2011[edit]

It has been almost 3 years since the Good-Article (GA) reviews, and I have completed the tedious copy-editing for WP:GOCE, which removed a section of 5 duplicate sentences about commercial endorsements/modeling, plus added some commas. The article seemed huge, but typical for a thorough coverage of the topic. I was concerned about the 5 sections of 70-word quotes, where copyright concerns typically limit text to 10-word quotes, so perhaps some quotes could be shortened, with at most 3 phrases of 10-word quotes where 70-word quotes were used, when the original text is copyrighted. -Wikid77 13:25, 12 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

edited some quote,though still too long. For copyright, it would be better detele those quotes? -getdownbe 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Assessment comment[edit]

The comment(s) below were originally left at Talk:Ruby Lin/Comments, and are posted here for posterity. Following several discussions in past years, these subpages are now deprecated. The comments may be irrelevant or outdated; if so, please feel free to remove this section.

this could be a-quality or at least a GA nominee, if somebody would clean up some of the awkward phrasing and capitalisation errors (the captions often do not capitalise Ruby Lin's name). it has all the other qualities it needs to be a Good Article (inline citations, pictures with captions, comprehensive coverage, etc.) --Sapphic 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Last edited at 17:34, 5 March 2007 (UTC). Substituted at 05:02, 30 April 2016 (UTC)

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