Talk:Ruqaiya Sultan Begum

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Her importance[edit]

I've started this discussion to put an end to this month-old dispute regarding her importance in the court and the references used (see WP:HISTRS). I would suggest that the posts be as short and simple as possible, mentioning only (maybe in points) each problem, reason and suggested improvement with any specific part of the content. Remember to aim at explaining it to someone who is does not have any advanced knowledge about this topic, in that way, any uninvolved user will find this thread easy to follow and hopefully, WP:CONSENSUS will be reached. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:32, 1 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The content added by the user Animefreak234 is unverifiable. Though sources have been cited, they don't mention the information added by the Animefreak234. The content of this article has been modified according to personal view. Nowhere, it has been mentioned that Ruqaiya was his most favourite or most powerful wife. The source which did mention that was a popular book of historical fiction and not a reliable source, therefore, I removed it as a reference. Thus, editing is required to make this article more fact-driven. I apologize to Animefreak234 for posting a little too personal comments on his/her talk page. Ananya 2012 (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

So the statement she was the most influential and powerful wife is disputed; I agree that it is a WP:REDFLAG situation and we need to see whether most historians agree on this. The references need to be stronger here for it to be put.

On the other hand, reference 13 and 16 (the fiction book is 17 I think) are also added to support this and statements related to it, are they not verifiable? A direct quote from these refs which supports the statement should be provided here. Ugog Nizdast (talk) 20:05, 2 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Reference 13 is a good book, rather well-researched but it doesn't support that statement. Neither does reference 16. The excerpt used in reference 17 is from a book published by an unreliable publishing house. Therefore, ref 17 has many anomalies.Ananya 2012 (talk) 10:44, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, User:Ananya 2012, the other side of this discussion has not showed up yet but an IP editor has recently done some big changes on this article, which I think you should review and see whether it needs to be fixed or reverted. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 08:21, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The IP editor tried to add info which is not corroborated by the the references cited by him/her. Also, the IP address has been used to make unwarranted changes without citing a source on Mariam uz-Zamani article. Changes made by me on Padshah Begum were also reverted by the same IP address. And again, rather curiously, the info added didn't cite a source.Ananya 2012 (talk) 08:58, 8 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I agréé Ruq was Never badshah begum Osraxa (talk) 01:26, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

about edit[edit]

hi. i removed the information as it was not suited for present page. also, i did log in when i removed the information on 29 november,2013. i do not have a reason to edit without logging in. :) thnx for contacting..

unreferenced or poorly sourced[edit]

For User: Helena Bx Addition of poorly referenced or unreferenced information and twisting facts to give a new meaning to them has been a problem for a really long time for this page. A Times of India article is not archaeology or a sound compilation of facts as, let's say, an academic article with good citations published in a renowned journal. So please add info to this page only if it has been sourced from a reliable reference. And btw, Zan-i-Kalan is just another fancy term for the first wife of every Mughal Emperor. It doesn't mean the 'chief' wife. Ananya 2012 (talk) 17:19, 7 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

But ruby lal Siad that she was zan i klan Osraxa (talk) 01:28, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Marriage[edit]

The marriage mentioned of Ruqaiya Sultan Begum was not her's but actually of Abdullah Khan Mughal's daughter. This marriage took place during the seige of Mankot when the ladies of the Imperial Harem came to India. (Reference: Akbarnama, Volume II, page 88, [1]) - Retrieverlove (talk) 16:48, 12 January 2018 (UTC) Retrieverlove 11:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The marriage which took place at Jalandhar, Punjab was also not Ruqaiya's but Salima Sultan Begum's marriage with Bairam Khan. Retrieverlove 03:06, 13 January 2018 (UTC)

Status as Padshah Begum[edit]

Was she mentioned as the Padshah Begum in any historical chronicles? If any knows please tell. Manavati (talk) 13:25, 3 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

No she was not badshah begum i didn't find a source which mentioned that she was badshah begum Osraxa (talk) 01:27, 12 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]