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Source for birthdate?[edit]

Original diff (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ryan_Holiday&type=revision&diff=532585502&oldid=532581876&diffmode=source) does not contain source. Perhaps of note is that the stated date of June 16 is suspiciously similar to the TechCrunch article date of July 16 sam1370 (talk · contribs) 01:55, 30 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]

American Apparel[edit]

This is missing some details about Ryan Holiday became Director in American Apparel. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cool-RR (talk • contribs) 06:00, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

And what are those missing details? Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 15:20, 20 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Section reads like infomercial/advertisement (written by articles subject?)[edit]

The Obstacle is the Way section lacks objectivity. It is overweighted with testimonial soundbyte praise-driven citations-- it cites & quotes multiple (excessive) celebrities and teams who read the book. These -dozen?- "blurb" entries don't serve a scholarly or informative purpose, but sell the book. There is also zero critical response to his works anywhere else leaving the article grossly unbalanced.

This taints the article and Wikipedia generally and its standards by diminishing the objectivity. It gives the appearance of a subject-author, or his agent, using the article for blatant self promotion. 2600:1700:AD20:F000:9DD0:7237:40BA:DC9A (talk) 04:10, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I am a big fan of Ryan Holiday's, but agree that this entry for him is promotional and does not meet Wikipedia standards. I will plan to work on correcting that in the near future.IndyNotes (talk) 13:53, 23 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Overly negative tone in the introduction[edit]

I feel like the tone of this article comes across as very negative, especially in the intro "controversial for marketing stoicism in the form of books". This just comes across as if someone very anti-Holiday wrote this intro. Why not "His writings on stoicism have been criticised" or "He publishes works on the ancient philosophy of stoicism, which have drawn criticism for x". Or just split the sentences, and first talk about his books and then their criticism. The way its currently written, it just comes across overly bitter and un-objective. ThatLoLFanboy (talk) 22:11, 24 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]