Talk:SMS Geier

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May 9, 2012	Good article nominee	Listed
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Article creation[edit]

Sourced information on this ship was in the article Geier and was removed when that article was converted to a dab page in this edit. I have copied it here to form this stub. PamD (talk) 14:15, 2 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review[edit]

This review is transcluded from Talk:SMS Geier/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Thurgate (talk · contribs) 19:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA review (see here for criteria)

It is reasonably well written.
prose: (MoS):
It is factually accurate and verifiable.
It is broad in its coverage.
a (major aspects): b (focused):
It follows the neutral point of view policy.
Fair representation without bias:
It is stable.
No edit wars etc.:
It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
Overall:
Pass/Fail:

Comments[edit]

1. evaded her pursuers. Who were her pursuers?

Should be more clear now. Thanks for the review. Parsecboy (talk) 21:53, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ya that's fine :) Thurgate (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I've put the article on hold for seven days to allow you to address the issues I've brought up. Feel free to contact me on my talk page, or here with any concerns. Thurgate (talk) 19:12, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Passed. Good job Parsec. Thurgate (talk) 22:10, 9 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Classification of SMS Geier (or multiple vessels?)[edit]

In finding and inserting a link to SMS Geier in the German Samoa article, I came across what seems to be very inconsistent classification of SMS Geier in various Wikipedia articles. In the German Samoa article its called a "small gunboat" , in SMS Geier a "light cruiser" , and in Geier a "sloop" (currently changed to "cruiser" ). I'm fairly certain all articles refer to the same ship. I found a short history of the SMS Geier as well as several pictures of it on a blog,[1] but it unfortunately doesn't have any references.

Mojowiha (talk) 13:34, 25 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

As built, the ship was classified as a "klein kreuzer" (small cruiser - what the Germans called their light cruisers). Over time, as light cruisers grew in size, Geier was no longer comparable to newer ships, and so these other classifications were applied by various authors. As far as I know, the German Navy never changed her classification. Parsecboy (talk) 11:45, 26 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So, that certainly seems to argue for a consistent application of the "light cruiser" designation. Well, I guess that's settled then. Thanks for your time Parsecboy.

Mojowiha (talk) 11:34, 3 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]

"Sovereign Immunity"? Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:41, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[edit]

I see that the reference linked in note 12 refers to "Sovereign Immunity" and the "Statement on United States Policy for the Protection of Sunken Warships" (January 19, 2001). However I fail to agree that the cited policy has anything to do with the doctrine of Sovereign Immunity. Someone desiring to dive to the wreck is apparently prohibited from taking anything because (says the US government),"no portion of a government wreck may be disturbed or removed, and any unauthorized removal of any property from a U.S. Navy wreck is illegal". No one wants to sue the government (and that is what sovereign immunity is all about). Terry Thorgaard (talk) 17:41, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Here are some books that discuss the issue: 1, 2, and 3, and there are many others if you'd like to read further. Thanks, Parsecboy (talk) 17:55, 8 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]