Talk:SS-Verfügungstruppe

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Note[edit]

1. Verfugungstruppe does not mean "special purpose troops." (that would be Sonderzwecktruppe or Sondernutzungstruppe). Verfugung doesn't translate well into English, but it has the general sense of 'command, control, disposal.' "At your disposal" is zu Ihrer Verfugung; an court's injunction is a Verfugung. If a native German speaker can improve on 'dispositional troops,' please do; but don't bring back an erroneous translation.

2. The Leibstandarte's formal name was Leibstandarte SS Adolf Hitler, abbreviated LSSAH. So you will find it in every source: SS-LAH is just wrong.

3. The tripartite division of the SS was already in place by mid-'37.

4. The Totenkopf formations were never part of the SS-VT. They belonged to the Totenkopfverbande, a coequal branch of the SS, and Eicke was not about to turn over his private army to Hausser, whom he outranked. The TK-Div was only transferred to the Waffen-SS in Jan '41.

5. 3rd SS Rgt Der Fuhrer did not participate in the invasion of Poland; having been recruited in Austria after the Anschluss it wasn't ready. Although it appears on the AG Sud OOB, I assure you DF spent the fall of '39 as the Protector of Bohemia's garrison in Prague. Solicitr (talk) 04:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Dubious TH Flaherty Ref[edit]

We already went through this discussion on the Waffen SS talk page. Since it has come up again on this article page I am copy-editing it over to here.

The Biblio/References section contains the following entry:

Flaherty, T.H (2004). The Third Reich:The SS (1st Edition ed.). Caxton Publishing Group. ISBN 1 84447 073 3.

The Caxton Publishing Group website shows no evidence of TH Flaherty or his book. Neither Google Books nor Amazon.com list the it. A Library of Congress (which, by law, should list every book published in the USA) search returns 'Invalid ISBN'.

This reference underpins...the article. Unless someone demonstrates the book is real and credible, and corrects the reference with a valid ISBN, I will procede with deletion.Dduff442 (talk) 06:51, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Found it via ISBN link on wiki. Publisher is Time Life Books, not Caxton, and title is wrong. This is a spectacularly obscure title, from a non-academic source. Better sources than this are needed.Dduff442 (talk) 06:58, 23 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the correct book cite, Dduff442. I corrected it in the reference section. This book was number one in a series on the Third Reich first published by the editors of Time-Life books in 1988. I read this book years ago and it is not a bad source; a good introduction type book. However, articles like this can always use more detail and better sourcing. Kierzek (talk) 01:42, 27 October 2009 (UTC)

According to OTTO WEIDINGER who was a DAS REICH MEMBER[edit]

THE SS VERFUGUNGSTRUPPE WAS DIRECTLY SUBORDINATE TO THE NSDAP OR IN OTHER WORDS HITLERS PERSONAL PRAETORIAN GUARD AND THAT THE DEFINITION SHOULD INCLUDE POLITICAL TROOPS TO THE SPECIAL PURPOSE OR AT YOUR DISPOSAL NOTES ALREADY MENTIONED> — Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.108.164.2 (talk) 19:30, 11 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]