Talk:Sa'd ibn al-Harth al-Ansari

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Assessment needed[edit]

Dear TheAafi, your assessment needed at this new page. -Hatchens (talk) 10:21, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hatchens, Sadly, this doesn't seem to fit my area of research. Pinging Mccapra for possible help. Thanks ─ The Aafī ^{^(talk)} 12:17, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Ha! I’ve been systematically avoiding all of these Kerbala martyr articles. I’ll take a look in a while. Mccapra (talk) 14:02, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Well the issue for me is this: there is an extensive literature about the martyrs of Kerbala in Shii religious scholarship, with which I am not at all familiar. The various stories this literature contains may or may not be historically accurate, but they are part of a well-documented received tradition. This gives us a kind of “in-universe” issue. The sources are “independent” in one sense but they are all of the same type in the same tradition. They’re all “reliable” in their transmission of tales which their community believes, but they’re not objective history. Personally I’d be inclined to pass all of these article that have demonstrated sources, perhaps with some language tweaks such as “it is believed that” or “it is narrated that” so readers are clear this isn’t a biography based on ordinary scholarly sources. Mccapra (talk) 18:47, 12 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]