Talk:Saar Offensive

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Does this have any sources? Especially the french mobilisation in August is "interesting". --Matthead 03:07, 10 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

-The Saar offensive is clearly stated as starting September 3rd, source: "On artillery" by Bruce I Gudmundsson. DW75 (talk) 22:03, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Similar content[edit]

This article is exactly similar to the Saar Offensive section in the Phoney War article, with the exception of the addition of a picture to this article, so this page ought to be integrated in to the Phoney War article instead?Assassin3577 (talk) 09:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC) This articale has zero sources so are we to think this the rantings of a insane french men? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.239.239 (talk) 12:46, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

It is a distinct and separate, LARGE scale military operation, it shoud most certainly have it´s own page, and should probably be expanded. In fact the current version feels seriously biased and anti-French(for example it says there SHOULD have been 40 divisions taking part, it doesn´t mention that over 30 divisions DID take part, instead making it sound like it never became a fullscale attack). The offensive was a clear failure, but the reasons for how it happened and why it was ended prematurely are complex and have little if anything to do with any German "counteroffensive".

DW75 (talk) 15:35, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, a basic review of 1939 international borders and a good topographic map make clear how few good avenues any French attack had without invading neutral nations. Too much discussion of the Saar Offensive in general (not just here) fails to examine very basic terrain and political aspects of the offensive. W. B. Wilson (talk) 19:08, 21 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

unclear events[edit]

This article is so unclear it's not even apparent what offensives took place and what only reached the planning stage. Let's see if this can be remedied. CapnZapp (talk) 19:41, 2 February 2016 (UTC)[reply]

End in September or October?[edit]

This article is unclear, it suggests that the offensive ended on 16 September, but discusses events up to 17 October. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:45, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello BoJo, wanna learn something?[edit]

There was no "Saarland" before 1945, the Saar is not "in the Rhine valley", and the "Siegfried Line" existed in 1917, not in 1939. Up yours, Donald! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E2:3701:D137:F5BD:99DF:D64A:53 (talk) 19:45, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

sources[edit]

Not a single source for the claim that France had planned a 40 division offensive in September 1939. Considering their mobilisation system and the need for 'forces d'interval' in the Maginot Line assembling such a force was simply impossible. The claim of French numeric superiority in the West is also quite simply false as the 'réserve B' formation cannot be counted at this date unlike German units of the first 'Wellen'. Leeb's Heeresgruppe C had sufficient force for defense in case of a serious Allied advance. But anyhow, the issue here is sourcing, some sections of the article include such, most, particularly concerning planning and forces available to both sides. For the later I could recommend 'Verbände und Truppen...' and 'les Grandes Unitées...'. --Caranorn (talk) 16:57, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]