Talk:Salish weaving

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"the Salish"[edit]

This article repeatedly uses that term as if it were one people that's being talked about, and not just a language-group agglomeration. More specificity of terminology is needed; I submit there's also a big difference between Interior Salish and Coast Salish weaving forms/styles, as much different as between the Coast Salish peoples' weavings and, say, the Kwakwaka'wakw or Gitxsan.Skookum1 (talk) 22:26, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

In the same vein, words from an unknown/unspecified Salishan language are used as if they were common, e.g. at the heads of each of the "materials" section - "SAH-ay" for example, for mountain goat wool; is that Halqemeylem? Lushootseed? Shishalhalem? Okanagan??Skookum1 (talk) 22:38, 20 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed. I think some IPA is in order, as well as a statement of which source language(s) are being used in the article's "Salish" jargon.

Might I also add that perhaps a better term for this article would be something like "Textiles of the Indigenous Peoples of the Pacific Northwest Coast"? After all, according to this link, the most famous and in my opinion most spectacular of all PNW coast textile traditions - namely the chilkat blanket - is originally not Salish at all, but Tsimshian. Finally, I would also like to say that, though the article clearly has severe issues with its citations, it would be a shame for it to be edited down, as I'm sure we could find sources for at least most of the material. 自教育 (talk) 19:38, 7 February 2014 (UTC) I think I might have just found out what language the "Salish" is: Upriver Halkomelem ! To me, this further backs up my opinion that we should have a more accurate title for this page then "Salish Weaving." 自教育 (talk) 19:47, 7 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Spinning[edit]

Where the article says "spinning machine", is this a hand spinning wheel, or what? I'd like to link it properly. - PKM (talk) 04:28, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Got it, it's hand-spinning with a spindle. - PKM (talk) 23:54, 1 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Weaving techniques[edit]

I know nothing about weaving. It is not clear to me whether the article is claiming that the three weaves described are particularly Salish in origin, or simply that the Salish happened to use three common methods. Either way, the reader would not need to know how to perform the technique; the tone is instructional. It might be enough to say that they wove fabric, without explaining which warp and weft go where. 24.244.23.46 (talk) 05:09, 29 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It's even worse: There are globally known weave structures called plain and twill weave, but the descriptions here are completely different from what I as a weaver would have expected. What they call "plain design" seems to be a 1/2 or 2/1 twill and what they call "twill", a 2/2 twill. "Twining" as a weave is a complete unknown, and "openwork" could be anything, including embroidery. The end result is confusion, except maybe for someone who already knows the weaving techniques. Madame (talk) 15:43, 13 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]