Talk:Saltburn, Ross and Cromarty

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Requested move 26 April 2020[edit]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

The result of the move request was: Moved to Saltburn, Ross and Cromarty. Sceptre (talk) 00:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Saltburn, Ross-shire → Saltburn, Highland – As per WP:SCOTLANDPLACE, disambiguation for place names in Scotland should normally be by council area. We should only being using traditional forms like Ross-shire when the name of the council area would itself be ambiguous, which isn't the case here. Jellyman (talk) 12:53, 26 April 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:39, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I do think disambiguation by council area when sufficient is usually best (other than places on islands) but SCOTLANDPLACE does say settlements in Highland should use the district. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:11, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
- Ah, sorry, you're right! A misreading of the guideline on my part – I was taking that part to mean when disambiguating by council area wasn't sufficient. However, if we take "district" to mean the 1973-96 areas (as implied by the link in the guideline) then Saltburn, Ross and Cromarty would be appropriate, as Ross-shire is archaic. Looking through the categories suggests there's a bit of a lack of consistency in the application of the guideline. Jellyman (talk) 13:37, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
  - A common mistake to make, that I made twice! see Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 January 20#Category:Small Isles, Inner Hebrides and Talk:Oronsay, Colonsay#Requested move 5 February 2019. Maybe "Placename, Ross and Cromarty" hasn't been used since that makes it look like a list of places though there are the likes of Category:Towns in Newfoundland and Labrador and Category:Towns in Tyne and Wear but SCOTLANDPLACE also makes an exception of places in Argyll and Bute that are on the mainland using just "Argyll" and that might have been the reason behind that which might also apply here thus the current title might be preferable. Crouch, Swale (talk) 13:56, 26 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Support Saltburn, Ross and Cromarty as that's what the guideline indicates, and "Ross and Cromarty" looks more recognizable than the archaic Ross-shire. But I think the guideline could use some tweaking. Why is Highland the only council area to use districts for disambiguation? Surely "Highland" is unambiguous.--Cúchullain ^t/c 03:11, 19 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.