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Reviewer: Obtund (talk · contribs) 00:48, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  1. In the intro, "...before being progressively released in other major markets, namely Australasia, Asia, and North America by June." states that it will be released in these areas in June, but it does not specify which year it will be released.  Done
  2. In the quote addressed above, "by June 2012," is future tense, it should be in past by using the word "in."  Done
  3. In the intro, "there was an extensive shortage of S IIIs" should be "there was an extensive shortage of the S III."  Done
  4. The above should have "there was an extensive shortage of the S IIIs".  Done - My mistake I changed it.
  5. Last sentence in the intro, "Due to overwhelming demand and a manufacturing flaw, there was an extensive shortage of the S III, especially in the United States; nevertheless, the S III was well-received commercially and critically. With many technology commentators touting it as the "iPhone killer", The S III played a major role in boosting Samsung's record operating profit during Q2 2012." is a run on sentence. Should be "Due to overwhelming demand and a manufacturing flaw, there was an extensive shortage of the S IIIs, especially in the United States. It was well-received commercially and critically, with many technology commentators calling the S III the "iPhone killer". The S III also played a major role in boosting Samsung's record operating profit during Q2 2012."  Done - Nevertheless was also added in.
  6. In the design phase subsection, "Throughout the eighteen-month design phase," should be "Throughout the eighteen months of designing,."  Done
  7. In the design phase subsection, "Designers worked on three prototypes concurrently while regarding each of them as the final product, requiring the constant duplication of effort as they had to repeat the same process for all three prototypes." should be written as "Designers worked on three prototypes concurrently, while regarding each of them as the final product. Doing so required a constant duplication of effort, as they had to repeat the same process for all three prototypes."  Done
  8. In the unveiling subsection, "After inviting reporters two weeks prior," what was it prior to?  Done - Updated to "Mid-april"
  9. In the unveiling subsection,"Samsung launched the Galaxy S III during Samsung Mobile Unpacked 2012 at Earls Court", should be "Samsung launched the Galaxy S III during the Samsung Moblie Unpacked 2012 event at Earls Court"  Done
  10. In the legal challenges subsection, "This is further helped by aggressive marketing by mobile carriers such as Vodafone and SingTel." should be "This is further helped by the aggressive marketing by mobile carriers such as Vodafone and SingTel.  Done
  11. In the legal challenges subsection, "Apple claimed the alleged infringements would 'cause immediate and irreparable harm' to its commercial interest." should be "Apple claimed the alleged infringements would 'cause immediate and irreparable harm' to its company's commercial interest."  Done
  12. In the intro', "The S III is to be released by approximately 300 296 carriers in nearly 150 145 countries by the end of July 2012." should be in past tense. An example would be, "The S III was released by approximately 300 296 carriers in nearly 150 145 countries at the end of July 2012."  Done
  13. In the software and services subsection, "To complement TouchWiz", should be, "To complement the TouchWiz interface,"  Done
  14. In the software and services subsection, "To complement the TouchWiz interface, the phone introduces S Voice, Samsung's intelligent personal assistant and response to Apple's Siri that can recognise eight languages including English, Korean and French." should be "To complement the TouchWiz interface, the phone introduces S Voice, Samsung's intelligent personal assistant and as a response to Apple's Siri that can recognise eight languages including English, Korean and French."  Done
  15. In the software and services subsection, "It is a major overhaul over the previous Android 2.3.x "Gingerbread", and is compatible with Android tablets, which had previously used Android 3.x "Honeycomb"" should be "It is a major overhaul over the previous Android 2.3.x "Gingerbread", and it is alsocompatible with Android tablets, which had previously used Android 3.x "Honeycomb""  Done
  16. In the software and services subsection, "From June 2012, to address the fact that iPhone users are reluctant to switch to Android since the OS is not compatible with iTunes, Samsung exclusively offers customers of its Galaxy series the Easy Phone Sync app to enable the transfer of music, photos, videos, podcasts and text messages from an iPhone to a Galaxy device." should have the first part moved to be like this, "To address the fact that iPhone users are reluctant to switch to Android since the OS is not compatible with iTunes, in June 2012 Samsung exclusively offers customers of its Galaxy series the Easy Phone Sync app to enable the transfer of music, photos, videos, podcasts and text messages from an iPhone to a Galaxy device."  Done
  17. In the software and services subsection, "The user can access Google Play, a digital-distribution multimedia-content service exclusive to Android, to download applications, movies, music, TV programmes, games, books and magazines." should be "The user is able to access Google Play, a digital-distribution multimedia-content service exclusive to Android, to download applications, movies, music, TV programmes, games, books and magazines.  Done
  18. In the software and services subsection, "One notable feature of the S III's music player is Music Square, which analyses a song's intensity and ranks its by mood so the user can play songs reflect their temperament." should be. "One notable feature of the S III's music player is Music Square, which analyses a song's intensity and ranks the song by mood so that the user can play songs that are reflective of their temperament."  Done
  19. In the software and services subsection, "Texting on the S III does not embody any significant features from the S II." should be written as "Texting on the S III does not embody any new significant features from the S II."  Done
  20. In the software and services subsection, "Scheduled to be released in the U.S. in July 2012, the enterprise version is expected to penetrate the business market" tense needs to be changed "It was scheduled to be released in the U.S. in July 2012, the enterprise version was expected to penetrate the business market."  Done
  21. In the hardware and design subsection, "Samsung has abandoned the rectangular design found on the Galaxy S and Galaxy S II, instead incorporating round corners and curved edges, reminiscent of the Galaxy Nexus." should be "Samsung has abandoned the rectangular design that can be found on the Galaxy S and Galaxy S II, and instead has incorporated round corners and curved edges, reminiscent of the Galaxy Nexus."  Done
  22. In the hardware and design subsection, "20 percent less power than the latter.", whats the latter, needs to be "20 percent less power than its latter."  Done
  23. In the hardware and design subsection, The transition from these two sentences, "The phone can also take pictures while recording videos. It has a 1.9-megapixel front-facing camera." needs to be reworked.  Done
  24. In the model variants subsection, "Unlike other S III versions, the South Korean model reportedly has a distinct rectangular design similar to the S II." should be "Unlike other S III versions, the South Korean model reportedly has a distinct rectangular design which is similar to the S II."  Done
  25. In the commercial subsection, "Within a month of the London unveiling, online-auction and shopping website eBay noted a 119-percent increase in second-hand Android phone sales, "the first time anything other than an Apple product has sparked such a selling frenzy."" needs to specify who's saying the quote.  Done
  26. In the commercial subsection, "The S III has helped improve or maintained Samsung's market share in several countries including India, where, despite its high launch price of 43,180 (US$768)..." the beginning can't can be either improve or maintain, can only be one.  Done - Updated to consolidate.
  27. In the commercial subsection, "In the United Kingdom Samsung has 40 percent of the market share; the phone has also eroded the iPhone 4S's 25 percent to 20 percent in the country." needs to be changed to "In the United Kingdom, Samsung had 40 percent of the market share, as of July 2012; the phone had also eroded the iPhone 4S's 25 percent to 20 percent in the country."  Done
  28. In the commercial subsection, "...Samsung's market share is also climbing due to "unprecedented" demand…" needs to be "…Samsung's market share is also climbing due to an "unprecedented" demand for the S III."  Done
  29. In the commercial subsection, "…in France the figure is 60 percent…" you need to specify what the figure is.  Done - changed to market share
  30. In the commercial subsection, "…some U.S. and Canadian carriers delayed release by several days…" should be changed to "…some U.S. and Canadian carriers delayed the release by several days…"  Done
  31. In the critical subsection, "Upon release, numerous critics and publications have made references to the S III as an "iPhone killer"" should be written as "Upon release, a number of critics and publications have made references to the S III as being the "iPhone killer""  Done
  32. This was a paragraph copyedit to the closing paragraph in the Commercial subsection. The comment can found here which is a subpage to this review.  Done
  33. Latter is mentioned many times, the "latter" needs to be specified.  Done
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  1. Article suffers from overlinking. Generally each term is supposed to be linked in first occurrence in infobox, in first occurrence in the lead section, once per reference (authors, works, publishers) and in first occurrence in the rest of article.  Done - 110 references removed.
  2. "on 3 May, a departure" needs to specify a year to the date.  Done
  3. "Samsung has expended several hundred million dollars for its global promotional campaign," does not specify what nominal amount that it is in.  Done
  4. "scheduled 21 June U.S. launch" needs to specify a year to the date.  Done
  5. "Samsung responded by declaring it would 'vigorously oppose the request and demonstrate to the court that the Galaxy S3 is innovative and distinctive'" should be congruent with the rest of the article and say S III not S3.  Done - Thus was it written.
  6. "...the 21 June release would proceed as planned" needs to specify a year to the date.  Done
  7. "...11 June, Judge Lucy Koh'" needs to specify a year to the date.  Done
  8. "...the 21 June release of the S III" needs to specify a year to the date.
  9. "...begin on 30 July" needs to specify a year to the date.  Done
  10. Model variants should be a level 4 subsection under the level 3 subsection Hardware and design.  Done
  11. "A separate "Developer Edition" of the S III is available from Samsung's Developer Portal via Developer.samsung.com." websites are never given like that, should just be "A separate "Developer Edition" of the S III is available from Samsung's Developer Portal."  Done
  12. "...North America from 20 June..." needs to specify the year. Also from should be changed to on.  Done
  13. The Footnotes section needs to include the years.  Done
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
  1. Reference 18: Eadicicco, Lisa (3 July 2012). "Samsung Galaxy S3 Release In UK Impacts iPhone 4S Sales, 'It's Much Swifter Than The 4S' Analyst Says". International Business Times (The International Business Times Inc.). Retrieved 4 July 2012. Is a dead link.
  2. Reference 19 should be at the end of the paragraph, where is says "4G LTE."  Done
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
  1. In the intro, "The S III is to be released by 300 carriers in approximately 150 countries by the end of July 2012." It is the end of July 2012, and the sources should be changed accordingly.
  2. In the intro, "The S III is to be released by 300 carriers in approximately 150 countries by the end of July 2012.", the source that is given says 296 carriers and 145 countries. Countries is approximated, but the carriers is not specified as such.  Done
  3. The battery life test between the S III and the HTC One X needs to include that the test was with quad-core phones playing continuous video.  Done - Tagged accordingly
2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
  1. "a departure from practice among Android-phone manufacturers of unveiling their products earlier in the year during either the World Mobile Congress or Consumer Electronic Show." is unneeded and too detailed.
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
  1. None that I can see, just user Arm jstp making some unconstructive edits.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  1. The image of the two phones has the copyright status of 2.0 generic and 2.5 generic. An image can only have one copyright status.  Done - Has been changed to 2.0.
  2. The image of the "Samsung Unpacked 2012" event was deleted off commons, and you added a different one which will probably get deleted again. You are not allowed to add copyrighted images to commons, but you can have them on Wikipedia.
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
 Reprise review:
1. Well-written:
1a. the prose is clear, concise, and understandable to an appropriately broad audience; spelling and grammar are correct.
  1. "Due to overwhelming demand and a manufacturing flaw..." should have an "an" in front of overwhelming.  Done
  2. "Some of the results of this design aim were the curved outline of the phone and its home screen's "Water Lux" effect where taps and slides produce water ripples." this sentence makes no sense, and aim should be removed.  Done
  3. "...has ranked the S III as the most popular phone on its website March 2012." should have "during" or "in" before "March 2012."  Done
1b. it complies with the Manual of Style guidelines for lead sections, layout, words to watch, fiction, and list incorporation.
  1. "Following an 18-month development phase..." should have 18 written out.  Done
  2. "...which began on 30 July." should have the year.  Done
2. Verifiable with no original research:
2a. it contains a list of all references (sources of information), presented in accordance with the layout style guideline.
2b. reliable sources are cited inline. All content that could reasonably be challenged, except for plot summaries and that which summarizes cited content elsewhere in the article, must be cited no later than the end of the paragraph (or line if the content is not in prose).
2c. it contains no original research.
3. Broad in its coverage:
3a. it addresses the main aspects of the topic.
3b. it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail (see summary style).
4. Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without editorial bias, giving due weight to each.
5. Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute.
6. Illustrated, if possible, by media such as images, video, or audio:
6a. media are tagged with their copyright statuses, and valid non-free use rationales are provided for non-free content.
  1. The main image was changed and should be changed back since there is because of NCFF #1, when a free image that was there was perfectly fine. - per GAN
  2. This photo has a licensing issue because it shows the Wikipedia logo, which is under copyright and trademark protection, and the image should have {{Wikipedia-screenshot}} on its file description page. - per GAN
  3. The main image should be changed to a blacked outscreen version of the image, which can be found here.  Done - per GAN
6b. media are relevant to the topic, and have suitable captions.
7. Overall assessment.

Discussion[edit]

Please refer to issue by numbers. Eg., the second issue with 1a criterion is 1a2. For referring to issues in the Reprise review, please use "R" in front of the criterion number, ie: R1a2.

1a12

"The S III was released by approximately 300 296 carriers in nearly 150 145 countries at the end of July 2012." Doesn't that imply the S III was not released before the end of July 2012? What's wrong with the current sentence? Point No. 5 has been addressed. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The current sentence apply that it will be release at the end of July 2012 and it is the end of July 2012, so tense must be changed. ObtundTalk 15:30, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a14

"Samsung's intelligent personal assistant as response to Apple's Siri that can recognise eight." That makes no sense. What I'm saying is, the S Voice is Sammy's intelligent personal assistant capable of recognising eight languages, and it also serves as the company's response to the iPhone 4S's Siri. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I did not included the full quote which was "To complement the TouchWiz interface, the phone introduces S Voice, Samsung's intelligent personal assistant and response to Apple's Siri that can recognise eight languages including English, Korean and French." I have updated the note. GA reviewer - ObtundTalk 15:07, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a21

Samsung has ..., and instead have incorporateed - why use "have" here? Also note the typo. --illythr (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Fixed the typo, because using have states the "the group" Samsung did the action. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 22:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As Samsung is referred to as a singular entity throughout the article, I think it should be "has" here as well, for consistency's sake. Sp33dyphil has already fixed the has/have inconsistency there. --illythr (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed - but everything else needs to be changed in #21 - GA reviewer ObtundTalk 00:52, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The sentence now reads: "Samsung has abandoned the rectangular design that can be found on the Galaxy S and Galaxy S II, and instead has incorporated round corners and curved edges, reminiscent of the Galaxy Nexus." The only remaining difference to what is suggested at #21 is the "has/have" point, which, as we seem to agree, have been addressed. --illythr (talk) 21:04, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a22

20 percent less power than its latter. - is that valid usage of "latter"? I'd suggest rewording to "According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the S II's Exynos 4 Dual, while using 20 percent less power." --illythr (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I don't believe so, latter means the end to beginning. I also believe it should state "S II" and then "the previous version." GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 22:00, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You mean like this: "According to Samsung, the Exynos 4 Quad doubles the performance of the Exynos 4 Dual used in the SII, while consuming 20 percent less power than the previous version." The problem here is that there's one more version of the Exynos 4 Dual between SII and SIII. --illythr (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well what do you mean by there was more than one version of the Exynos four dual? - GA Reviewer ObtundTalk 03:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's the "Exynos 4 Dual (Galaxy S II) and there's the "Exynos 4 Quad" (Galaxy S III). --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 04:47, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
As listed here, after the Exynos 4 Dual 45nm which was used in the SII, there's an Exynos 4 Dual 32nm that was built in the Meizu MX. Thus, the Exynos 4 Quad is not the previous version of the SII's Dual. --illythr (talk) 15:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a23

There doesn't need to be a link between the two. The second sentence about the front-facing camera, of which there aren't a lot of info, is there to conclude the paragraph. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:43, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It doesn't flow well and needs to be reworked. GA reviewer - ObtundTalk 15:13, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps do an explicit subject switch: "The front-facing camera has a resolution of 1.9-megapixels and can record 720p videos." --illythr (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 08:09, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a26

Replace "has helped improve or maintained Samsung's market share" with "has helped Samsung consolidate its market share"? --illythr (talk) 21:10, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed - GA reviewer ObtundTalk 22:33, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a28

"…Samsung's market share is also climbing due to an "unprecedented" demand…" The word an would not normally be included if I was not elaborate on what the customers be demanding. "Across other Western European countries and Australia, Samsung's market share is also climbing due to "unprecedented" demand;" vs "Across other Western European countries and Australia, Samsung's market share is also climbing due to an "unprecedented" demand for the S III;" Ask yourself this "an unprecedented demand" for what? I think you didn't quite hit the bull eye's on this sentence. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe explain what that demand was? GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 22:38, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What I'm saying is, by adding an, I'd need to elaborate on what the demand actually was, which I have done by add "for the S III". --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 04:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Perfect. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 04:53, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a31

"a numerous amount of critics" Not only is it unnecessary and awkward, but amount should also be number. The current sentence conveys the same message without the superfluous words. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed - I have updated it above - GA reviewer ObtundTalk 22:09, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a32

"Though only a limited number of the white Galaxy S III 16 GB model were available" I think you'd be right if I had specified the number of Galaxy S III 16 GB, but I used the phrase "a limited number", making the subject singular. Thoughts? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well the number specified is "limited." GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 22:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
My point is, "a limited number" is singular, so were would be wrong in this context. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 22:47, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but by specifying "a limited number" you are saying more than one. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 03:36, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In other words, "a limited number" acts as a collective noun, so I believe a singular verb applies, instead of a plural verb. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 04:39, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well, when collective nouns, are preceded by "a", it is treated as a plural word. And it was already completed. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 04:50, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]


1b1

I don't think there are any restrictions regarding the number of wikilinks in references, since a reader wouldn't normally read the refs in order from first to last. I've also been wikilinking everything in the refs in other articles and the point hasn't been raised before. I'm not sure how this article is different from iPhone 4S regarding wikilinks. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 02:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
To me it seemed over linked. There should only be one source maybe two in somecases, none of them should be side by side, unless it is needed. Giving three different sources to the same information is meaningless if you know what I mean. The iPhone 4S page has 2 sources a few times and three once or twice, but S III's page has many more than that. In total the iPhone 4S page has 65 sources, while S III's page has 221 sources. Each of the pages are about equal in length (plus or minus), and a majority of the sources on S III's page are uneeded. GA reviewer ObtundTalk 03:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Could you guys be talking past each other here? Obtund means the overuse of references, whereas Sp33dyphil seems to discuss wikilinks in the refs. I agree with Obtund here - simple uncontroversial facts like company statements or past release dates don't need more than one ref to back them up. --illythr (talk) 23:07, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. I just believe that 217 references is a little bit too much. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 04:45, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1b2, 4, 6-9, 12-13

Another point, I'm not sure how adding "2012" after dates would help, since the reader should be able to figure out that the phone was launched in May 2012, and thus every significant event would've taken this year. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 02:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By following WP:MOS, the reader may have lost track of the year, and so forth. It also has to be this way so it isn't confused with other years. GA reviewer ObtundTalk 03:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"the public that the 21 June release would proceed as planned." I've already included the year for the previous mention of "21 June" -- I totally cannot see how that can be remotely confused with other years.
If you can find something in WP:MOS that allows that then go ahead, but I can't find it. An example would be the iPad 3, every date/month has a year next to it. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 16:11, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
By putting the in front of 21 June, I am referring to the US release date that was mentioned previously. This is unlike the iPad article in that the authors didn't make any references to earlier dates -- all the dates on the article are different. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:MOS, you need to state the year. GA reviewer - ObtundTalk 15:15, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It seems we're at an impasse -- I'm proposing that we invite a third-party to resolve this issue. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't believe that bring this to a dispute noticeboard is necessary. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 16:44, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The year is already clearly implied -- please show me where WP:MOS calls for the inclusion of year in every date? --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
From Wikipedia:MOSNUM, "Yearless dates (5 March, March 5) are inappropriate unless the year is obvious from the context." It requires it. Maybe not if the date is in the same sentence but it still applies. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 15:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1b6 and 1b8 use the definite article to link to a specific date with a year, thus providing the necessary obvious context. 1b12 does need the year, though. It should be also split off into a separate paragraph, because it changes topic from market share analysis to the launch event. --illythr (talk) 21:23, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1b6 needs it and 1b8 does not. I never disagreed to 1b12. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 21:50, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
1b6 clearly refers to the date stated just a sentence ago. As it is also the only date in that range, I think that the Viewers Are Goldfish trope should be defied here, for the good of all. As for 1b12, I was actually agreeing with you there. --illythr (talk) 22:57, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Well by Viewers are goldfish, we should have it every time if you know what I mean. But all that needs it is 1b6, 1b8 I can see being obvious. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 02:08, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2a1

Strange, I'm reading Reference 18 at the moment. You're sure there's nothing out of line with your browser? According to [1], there aren't any dead links. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:06, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, that's odd, it works now. ObtundTalk 13:18, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2b2

I can't any sources that say 296 carriers have released the S III in in 145 countries, simply because a company wouldn't announce such a development. Therefore, I'm going to say that the phone has been released by approximately 300 carriers in nearly 150 countries by the end of July 2012, because I can be fairly sure that it is true, although I don't know the exact number of carriers and countries. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 02:55, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed - GA reviewer ObtundTalk 03:06, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2bX→3

In regards to the battery life of the S3 and HTC One X variants - I can say with confidence that the statement "it has twice the battery life compared to the HTC handset", referring to the S3 and HTC One X, is misleading and controversial. Of the three sources they cite, only one found a 100% difference and their test was limited to quad-core phones playing continuous video. Their other source, Tech Radar, report a 37% difference, not 100%. I did not check their 3rd source, but would suggest making a more neutral battery life statement and perhaps pointing to a site such as gsmarena. They also have a S3 specific page, but it does not mention the HTC. I cannot find any battery test results for the dual-core S3. Molecbiolograd07 (talk • contribs) 18:02, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for that information. I have not gotten to that part of the article yet, but I appreciate the heads up! GA reviewer - ObtundTalk 18:51, 1 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have noted it above that it should describe the testing situations. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 00:51, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

3b1

I didn't remove everything, as the event was specially geared towards the launch of the S III, whereas the One X and other phones were revealed at the World Mobile Congress or CES. In addition, an explanation is provided after the sentence in question, so some context must be provided. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
 Agreed - GA reviewer ObtundTalk 15:30, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

6a2

The previous image was removed because I uploaded it without knowing that such an image (which consisted prominent copyrighted works) was not in the public domain. This photo, however, doesn't feature copyrighted works. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 06:37, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Is the cube in the background copyrighted? GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 13:21, 2 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but it's not the focal point of the photo, so no infringements there. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:30, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Does it really matter if it is the focal point or not? GA Review - ObtundTalk 21:52, 3 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes. That's why the previous photo was removed -- because its focal point is a copyrighted work. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 03:42, 4 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

1a33

Are you implying that, even though the word latter exists, it cannot be used? This is not Simple English Wikipedia. I have altered one instance of the word, but I'm not changing the other. If you insist, provide an alternative to "The South Korean version is a hybrid of the 4G-capable and international versions by incorporating the latter's hardware and the former's LTE support." that is not awkward. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 08:34, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Nobody knows what the latter is for the last time. Above I thought it was the S II but it was a processor. You need to specify! I am also seeing some WP:OWN with this article by the way. GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 15:30, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
How? I said I wouldn't alter the sentence myself, because I have no improved alternative for it -- I'm happy to see others change the sentence for the better, if they know a way of getting rid of "the latter" without making it worse. I didn't, and don't, have any problems with other users editing the article, and was happy to address most of your, and others', issues. I just happen to disagree with several of your points. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 21:33, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Just change latter to a what the latter is. GA reviewer - ObtundTalk 21:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Latter" here is the "international version [of the SIII]". How about this: The South Korean version is a hybrid model, incorporating LTE support of the the 4G-capable version and the hardware of the international S III variant. The international version should also probably be mentioned before the LTE one in that para, because it was released first. --illythr (talk) 15:28, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It really doesn't matter just get rid or the word "latter." GA Reviewer ObtundTalk 16:46, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
*shrug* Looks like the L-word's completely absent from the article now. --illythr (talk) 17:00, 8 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Poor quality references

I am surprised that the article got through relatively unscathed w.r.t. the references used. Having looked there are a large number of very poor references used - websites that are little more than blogs or reposters. A good example would be the recently-added reference on motoringcrunch.com. I don't see how that site could pass WP:RS. To me this article is nowhere near GA quality. It has lots of references, but a good percentage of them are simply worthless. --Biker Biker (talk) 07:40, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I haven't gone through the references yet, I was going to do that after we figured out all the issues listed above. As I noted the article is way overlinked, and I don't think reviewing all 217 refs would be productive when many of them will be deleted. Thanks for the heads up! GA Reviewer - ObtundTalk 07:57, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
FYI, I have been through and tagged a number of the references (approximately 10% of the total), along with reasons, that I feel are dubious. --Biker Biker (talk) 10:38, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

R6a2

Really? I thought [2] says that if a logo or trademarked work is not the focus of an image, or does not take up much of the photo, the presense of said work is fine. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:46, 15 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Conclusion

When's the GAN gonna be closed? Everything has been addressed. --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 05:12, 10 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but so much has been changed, it needs to be reassessed. It will only take a day or two. ObtundTalk 03:12, 11 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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