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Untitled[edit]

Moved to Samuel Hoare because he is almost never referred to with his title, which was given at retirement. john k 04:25, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Why has the photo been removed? How can something, once it has been deemed part of the commons, be removed without citing any evidence of copyright? Harfarhs (talk) 08:29, 22 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why is he given postnominal abbreviations of OWL for Order of the White Lion of Czechoslovakia? Is it correct procedure for non-British Commonwealth honours to be postnominally abbreviated after Britons' names? Note he was also recipient of six other foreign orders from five nations - why not abbreviate them?Cloptonson (talk) 17:53, 29 June 2013 (UTC) I have listed his foreign awards within the article.Cloptonson (talk) 20:45, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Section 'Legacy'[edit]

The section headed Legacy at the end of this article deserves revision.

1. Is it an appropriate title for the content? (One associates 'legacy' with what is left behind in political or other achievements - this section does not appear to assess his impact.) 2. It was originally all one paragraph, which I have split in two, with his accomplishments and talents appearing in the first and comment on his intelligence and political career in the second. While the first paragraph gives facts not already covered in the article, the second appears to be a repetition in terms to what is given in the article's introductory paragraph. Could this not be deleted entirely, or blended into the introductory paragraph?Cloptonson (talk) 19:31, 29 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

'Close ties' to Czechoslovakia in 1938[edit]

I have raised a citation need for the statement Hoare had 'close ties' with the Czech government at the time of the Munich conference. Can the form of the ties be demonstrated? (His sketch in ODNB does not make any clear.) It would also be helpful if a date could be found for his award of the Order of the White Lion; clearly at some point in his life the Czech government had cause to honour him.Cloptonson (talk) 10:38, 6 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

May 1940[edit]

The article states: "In May 1940, the resignations of Hoare, Sir John Simon, and Kingsley Wood were essential conditions for the broadening of the Chamberlain government."

This seems puzzling to me. Hoare obviously was sacked when Churchill came to power, and Simon was kicked upstairs from the Treasury to the Woolsack. But Wood was promoted by Churchill from Lord Privy Seal to Chancellor of the Exchequer. More explanation might be helpful here? john k (talk) 02:44, 24 November 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Political views[edit]

First helping Mussolini and later on helping Franco (secret transport to North Africa) it looks like the British Secret Service played a small but crucial role in the rise of fascist power, at least in southern Europe. This makes one think what Samuel Hoares personal views were on this extreme movement. As far as I see there is nothing written about that on this Wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.90.39 (talk) 19:49, 29 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]

He is said in the article to have "authored" the Hoare-Laval Pact. The use of "authored" is not very helpful here. No-one in the 1930s "authored" anything of any kind, least of all even disreputable diplomatic agreements. Also, even discounting that, its use here implies that Hoare was solely and personally responsible for the Pact, which a) is not true and b) might afford support to anyone who might wish to argue that Laval was somehow an unwitting victim of an evil British plot to make life easy for Mussolini. This sort of language generates what is nowadays accused of being "false news". Hoare negotiated an agreement here, surely, in partnership with Laval.Delahays (talk) 19:56, 21 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]