Talk:Scottish Fantasy

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Should the 4th movement, the finale, be "Allegro energico" or "Allegro guerriero"?

Google searches reveal

- Scottish Fantasy Bruch Finale; "Allegro guerriero" 3,160 hits

- Scottish Fantasy Bruch Finale; "Allegro energico" 1,420 hits

I'm using this for the theme tune on my website and I'd like to know.

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Peter Dow (talk) 17:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've got a copy of the 1880 edition published by Simrock. It labels the 4th movement as "Finale / Allegro guerriero". That's what the article currently says. AlbertBickford (talk) 00:51, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did Bruch really never visit Scotland?[edit]

It would be really nice to have a citation for this claim. I've heard it said several times that he collected these tunes himself during a visit to Scotland; the liner notes of the CD I've got say a visit to Britain. I have no special knowledge beyond this.
Davecat4 (talk) 00:41, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Agree that a citation would be good, particularly since the "fact" is disputed. Of course, I'm not sure CD liner notes are a strong source, although it depends on who wrote them. One CD that I'd be inclined to trust would be the one put out by Rachel Barton Pine, because she did a lot of research for it. I don't have access to it where I am, though. AlbertBickford (talk) 00:46, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Well, after a year & more, I've at least added a "citation needed" note. I don't personally have any resources which would allow me to answer the question with confidence; if I did, I'd just have updated the page in the first place. (I certainly agree that CD liner notes aren't in themselves a good enough source; hence my raising the question here.)

Davecat4 (talk) 00:12, 10 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Scottish Fantasy was premiered in Hamburg in 1880, when the soloist was Sarasate. The UK premiere took place in Liverpool in 1881 and the soloist was Joachim. Max Bruch never actually visited Scotland. His inspiration came from the works of Sir Walter Scott and a collection of Scottish folk songs. <ref 'A Few Notes On Scottish Fantasy' by Andrew Phillips (ISBN 978 1 3999 0011 9)> <ref 'Max Bruch: His Life and Works' by Christopher Fifield (ISBN 1 84383 136 8)> APhill62 (talk) 11:33, 16 August 2021 (UTC)[reply]