Talk:Scream (Kelis song)

GA Review

This review is transcluded from Talk:Scream (Kelis song)/GA3. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: FeuDeJoie 15:14, 6 June 2011 (UTC)

Introduction

• "The up-tempo electro-dance, techno synthpop song" - doesn't read well, is there a reference you can find for a main genre or theme.
• "It was mainly met with positive reception from music critics" it's confusing change to something like - It was generally well received by critics.
• ""Scream" was compared to songs by Dutch disc-jockey Fedde Le Grand" - Who compared it, reviewer(s) and publisher(s), it is too obscure otherwise... Also this section should be placed after the composition sentence in the first paragraph. It is inconsistent otherwise.
• "although critics noted that Kelis' vocals were layered as oppose to sung" - This belongs in the final sentence of the first paragraph, it is critical opinion not composition.

Style and composition

• "Scream" is an up-tempo, synthpop, electro-dance and techno song with elements of house and soft-rock. - It needs a lead genre such as "Scream" is an up-tempo song with themes/ elements (add a link) of synthpop etc. It is too messy to read.
• The music and lyrics were written by Kelis, Jean Baptiste, David Guetta and Roman de Garcez. - This isn't anything to do with composition, it is production and should be the lead sentence as well as the section being changed to 'Background and composition' or something of this nature.
• "NME's Gavin Haynes commented on the song during his technical review of Flesh Tone. He said" - Unneeded information, change to "NME's Gavin Haynes said" we don't need the background to the review it isn't anything to do with composition.
• "Many other critics" - two references isn't many, change to several or some critics noted.
• "sometimes like" - Why sometimes, I don't get it, it is confusing to read consider removing the entire sentence it is messy or otherwise remove "sometimes". Even the quote is confusing I do not see it's purpose.
• "while at other times" grammar is incorrect "whilst also".
• The Nick Levine Digital Spy sentence review is the same as the previous description remove one of the sentences. The Digital Spy is much better remove the previous one.

Release and chart performance

• Title doesn't include anything about live performances. It should be changed to 'Release and performances' or 'Release and promotion' and the Belgium charts should be moved to the Critical reception section which should then be labelled 'Reception'.

Critical reception

• "it represented Kelis well:" - should be changed to "it represented Kelis well saying". However the relevance of the sentence at all is questionable, it does not relate to the music at all, it represents the partnership between Guetta and Kelis.
• "the overall effect was "Wow!"" could you not get a more developed quote, it doesn't really give her critical opinion, it could almost be Wow! --- it's so bad. You need to expand this response.
• "David Buchanan of the New York and Chicago-based online music publication Consequence of Sound" - You do not need to add "New York and Chicago-based" - it is overly detailed.
• The Consequence of Sound actual quote response is too long, you need to remove parts such as; "Kelis never drops the ball on her seamless rhythm here, though her vocals [...] tend to be locked".
• "Robert Copsey from Digital Spy agreed with the other reviewers" what other reviewers. The section is not detailed enough to reach a consensus of this sort change to "from Digital Spy said".
• Also pick one of two sentences from the Digital Spy review the article does not need two sentences, it is too overly detailed.

Music video

• "It was fillmed the last days of August 2010 and was direcred by John "Rankin" Wadell." - Grammar and spelling check needs a comma after 2010, fillmed to filmed and last to final.
• The entire synopsis needs to be rewritten it makes little sense, it is disorganized. Reformat the synopsis with a range of outfits and styles performed in the video, for example "Kelis is seen in (this outfit), (this outfit) and (this outfit), followed by the concept (what is happening) for example during the video she is shown (dancing with rods sticking out), (running) and (whatever else).
• "Other scenes" - expand, it is too general "other" list what specific scenes, or studios.
• "while Robbie Daw, from the music news website Idolator" - we do not need to know that Idolator is a music news website, it is a publishers this is a major problem throughout it just seems to be a way of filling the article change to "while Robbie Daw from Idolator".
• "the video as an collection" to "as a collection".
• "There are various shots of Kelis in some OTT fashion ensembles (huge fake eyelashes, lace winged hat, chains) with a recurring image of her in a human body suit, jogging in place." - No link to the previous section, reads oddly could be anybody writing that statement link it with the publisher.

Credits

• ""Scream" was recorded at 'Casa de Kelis' and mixed at 'Gum Prod Studio' in Paris." - This is irrelevant, this is the background of the production of the song and has no link to the credits of the song, remove the sentence but the incorporate the source.

Well-written

• Generally not really, flagged a lot of issues which need to be carefully revised.

Broad in its coverage

• Covers all aspects; music video, performance, reception but section titles need to be revised as they do not summarize these correctly.

Neutral

• I will have to look more carefully into this, I think more negative responses are needed for the critical reception section which I have not flagged as you have stated that it is a "mixed to positive" response.

Style and composition

• Reference 1, NME, where does it say synthpop specifically.
• Reference 2, it notes synths and pop and electroclash but I see no specific electro-dance. Correct me if I am wrong.
• Reference 4, BBC, where does it say house.

Release and chart performance

• Reference 8, Digital Spy it states that she also announced a tour, it does not state the release was to coincide with this or even the announcement for the matter, this needs to be edited or removed.
• Reference 9, Youtube, whilst there is no blanket ban on a Youtube reference, it does not state it is the first performance and a new source should be found.

Music video

• Reference 14, Rap-up, where does it state the premiere date. Find a new source or remove sentence.
• Reference 15, Interscope, where does it state when the video was filmed.
• Reference 16, Youtube, find more reliable source and as no sourced release date is noted you cannot now state it was released the week after.
• Remove reference 17, 18 is the only one needed.

Track listing

• Digital Download, find a more reliable link for example itunes store.
• Reference 21, you need to note in the reference that it is in French.

Release history

• Reference 22, 7 digital, does not state it is an English release, it is a UK Remix Version which could mean it is an English release, this website could be import and it is unreliable find a better source.
• Reference 20, Find a better reference for UK Digital release, I have stated this also on Track listing.
• Reference 24, German Amazon, need to state that it is in German on the reference.

Notes

Overall generally it is messy, quantity seems to be a running theme here instead of quality. References aren't all valid and the prose isn't very well. There is a lot to do for such a small article. I am placing this article on-hold so that you can complete the issues listed or contest them with me on my talk page. Seven days from June 15, 2011 will be given in which time afterwards a decision will be made on its GA nomination. --FeuDeJoie (talk) 19:43, 15 June 2011 (UTC)

It's been almost a month and the issues above haven't been touched, so I'm failing this. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 19:43, 7 July 2011 (UTC)