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Map for the Hwelitum pls[edit]

A modern map, locational and showintg the current reserve on a closeup of Vancouver, is one thing needed; another that woudl be good if findable is an archival map of the pre-bridge, pre-development Kits showing the old reserve; Maj. Matthews has at least a hand-sketched one that could be scanned. As re my edit comment about images, there's others that specify August jack and I remember one showing him in his canoe just offshore, with his house in the background, and I seem to remember a dog in it with him, I guess taken from the north side of False Creek or from a boat; if it's VPL we're SOL but it might be in BC Archives, it's in one of the two, I don't know if online or not....Skookum1 (talk) 06:13, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

PS we'ree a lucky that area is just the bridge and Vanier Park; CPR wanted Kits from False Creek out to Jericho to be the main industrial dockyards, but they were overruled.....(somehow).Skookum1 (talk) 06:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ask Bobanny about my xeroxed VPL photos, it might be in them I think. no photo quality but should have catalog no. or else it's in Matthews.Skookum1 (talk) 06:25, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Almost a decade later, but I found the Matthews map on the CoV archives, and uploaded it to Commons. -Kieran (talk) 00:48, 23 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

hereditary chief[edit]

You know, when I think about it, he wasn't a hereditary chief. He was a chief...kind of. The proper term is, "He was a siyam". I personally don't equate siyam to chief or a positional-title like that. He explains it in his book actually. (Need to find that quote to add to pages). Anyways, sure he was a "chief" in our sence of our word for a man who did what he did (A siyam). He potlatched, he conducted ceremonies, he shared his wealth (both material and knowledge resources) and was a good leader. All qualities of a "siyam". They, my people, and I imagine the settlers, equated siyam to chief, which I personally consider to be a improper translation. But that subject needs to be discussed in my community more. To further make my point, the person who has the name now (Xats'alanexw) is not a chief. It's similar to Andy Paul's grandfather, Charlie Hundred. Charlie gave potlatches, and considered a siyam, but not a chief. In any case, I just felt like saying this because the inclusion of hereditary made me think of it. Just sharing a tidbit of my humble opinion. OldManRivers (talk) 08:15, 17 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for this! I had noticed in Matthews (which is now available online at the City of Vancouver archives), that he mentioned that August Jack did not describe himself as a chief. -Kieran (talk) 23:34, 25 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]