Talk:Settlements in Israel/Move discussion

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The requested move was successful. Do not edit this discussion. enochlau (talk) 01:20, 22 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

I request that this page be moved to Settlements in Israel, for the purposes of redirecting the name Israeli settlements to Israeli settlement. This will require an update of the disambiguation clauses at the top of each article. I assert that this action is appropriate under the doctrine of common usage. --Bb3cxv 16:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Voting[edit]

  • Support --Bb3cxv 16:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, or alternatively merge with Geography of Israel as suggested by another user. The big problem is the misdirection of readers looking for information on Israeli settlements, as they are known to the world. Palmiro | Talk 21:50, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Against as is it increases the ambiguity of Israeli settlements and does not solve the ambiguity of "Israeli settlement". gidonb 10:39, 20 December 2005 (UTC) Illegal in protest to the personal attacks on this page. gidonb 18:27, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support on the basis that, IMO, this article was made only in response to a problem a user had with another article. --Cybbe 12:53, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support, if only to rearrange the links, but I'm not convinced this information requires its own page. I think it should be merged, either with Geography of Israel or Israeli settlement. --Gregor Samsa 17:55, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]
    • Comment: I'm not at all convinced of that either, not as it stands anyway. Palmiro | Talk 18:58, 20 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion[edit]

  • Hmm, I would actually prefer an instant redirect to a dab page that gives the reader (who typed in "Israeli settlement(s)" in the search box) two choices:
  1. Israeli settlements in Israel proper (i.e. towns and cities within the State of Israel)
  2. Israeli settlements elsewhere (i.e. elsewhere in the Land of Israel, or in the Golan/Qunaytira)
Compare the dab-pages for Settlement and Settler (disambiguation), respectively.
Sez: Big Adamsky 17:08, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

"Israeli settlements" is a commonly accepted term meaning the communities built for Israeli Jewish settlers in areas that it captured during the 1967 Six-Day War. The article currently in this place does not refer to this, and instead merely defines the meaning of the combined words "Israeli" and "settlement", and hence is against the common-usage rule. The proponents of this article argue that it applies to the common use of the word settlement. They have not made an argument that it applies to the term "Israeli settlements". The simple solution is to move this article to the unambiguous name "Settlements in Israel" and turn "Israeli settlements" into a redirect to "Israeli settlement". --Bb3cxv 16:44, 19 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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