Talk:Shalane Flanagan

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Error in top finisher original reporting[edit]

CBS News reported that Shalane finished 6th at Boston and that error has persisted on its and other sites. She finished 7th, 33 seconds behind a runner from Belarus. [1] Activist (talk) 16:57, 22 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

OK, so part of the discrepancy might have been that Rita Jeptoo (who won) was later disqualified. So, yes, shalane was originally 7th, but the disqualification moved all females up by one place (thus placing Shalane 6th officially). I put in an edit (click here) that probably explains this reasonably for the scenario? If cbs and other sites state 6th for shalane after the time Rita Jeptoo was disqualified, then those sites would be correct. I may also add a link or two that shows Rita's disqualification. I have marked this as resolved. If you feel it is not at such, then remove it and let me know. Thanks. Tbashaw (talk) 04:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I now see that your talk was on April 22 2014 and with no edits thereafter. So, this is interesting. That was well before anything regarding Jeptoo's doping. This means you are saying those sites were indeed incorrect around that time in 2014 saying Flanagan was sixth! Well, thanks for the info, and my guess is with Rita Jeptoo significantly ahead of the pack, some news outlets may have lost track of shalane's spot or just had an error that propagate.Tbashaw (talk) 05:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Professional Career Hierarchy[edit]

The Professional career section originally had headings broken up into four years with yearly-emphasized quasi headings that excluded the first year in the series, since it would appear a bit weird showing "2008-2011" and then "2008" just below that heading with the same font size and boldness. So the pattern was to leave out the first year quasi heading and just label remaining years and let the reader follow the logic of headings. I thought this makes it a little harder to read. I proceeded to remove the four year headings and just break everything up on a per year basis using standard headings except the early career which also put in "(2004-2007)" to indicate its time span for clarity (seen at this edit here). This seemed to be a better solution, and I have used this same hierarchy on other athlete pages. I hope this helps...Tbashaw (talk) 05:32, 8 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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2017 NYC Marathon[edit]

I started to increase the information about the NYC marathon as I thought it is important to understand what took place and why Shalane won (it was rather a surprise too many, so analysis can be warranted), and I have to come to the realization that some of the info may be best placed in the New_York_City_Marathon and/or 2017 New_York_City_Marathon sections. I have to understand more about how those pages would develop before I make a move. If I do not do something to this effect within a reasonable amount of time, put a note and alert me on my page.Tbashaw (talk) 04:30, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Duplicate information regarding place changes after disqualification of other athletes[edit]

I noticed the edits (1 2) to eliminate some of the duplicate content for the 2014 Boston Marathon place for Shalane Flanagan. I understand the reasoning (and it gave me an idea); however, I guess it can be kind of convenient to have the disqualification also mentioned in the year it took effect and not just at the physical place. Can a comprise between the edit to remove the info and the original be considered? How about simplifying the edit shown in the 2014 section along side her boston marathon place, and have it point (using an anchor) to sentence in 2016 within the article that describes it in detail? Also, I think this is good idea since more and more people are getting disqualified as time goes on. So we wouldn't want that mass to accumulate in that spot where place is mentioned. See example below that seems like a clean way to do this...

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2014 section: ...Boston Marathon...ultimately finishing seventh ( later upgraded to sixth <--anchor pointer to sentence in 2016)...

2016 section: On December 12, 2016 Flangan was upgraded in the 2014 Boston Marathon results from seventh to sixth after winner Rita Jeptoo was disqualified.

I was thinking to do the same thing with the 2008 bronze (as the example above) as there currently is info in both the 2008 and 2017 sections. Thoughts? This seems like a good compromise to me: it simplifies where it is first mentioned, which is good because flow of reading is easier, but more details are then in the year where it is announced and directly linked to that sentence(s) where there is room for the content without it getting in the way of things. Hopefully I have explained this OK. Tbashaw (talk) 23:51, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure where is best, but seems best to not duplicate. You can cross-reference content between years using anchor links, like cross-link to longer description. Tom Ruen (talk) 23:59, 11 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I agree like in programming, etc, we try not to duplicate in the slightest, but I think this helps flow for reading in this application. I think what you are saying about the anchors is what I am doing in the above example. If you look at " later upgraded to sixth" I have pointer underneath it (I just now tagged it to make it obvious) to an anchor at the beginning of the sentence in 2016.Tbashaw (talk) 01:12, 12 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved

I went ahead and did what I discussed, but forgot to login. So the edit appears to to be pending review. Tbashaw (talk) 05:27, 17 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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