Talk:Shha with descender

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which phoneme(s)??[edit]

Shha with descender is used in the alphabets of the Tati and Juhuri languages, where it represents the glottal stop /ʔ/.

Kepler-1229b recently changed this to

… a voiceless guttural plosive.

The reference says

Phonetically, the character represents a voiceless gutt[u]ral plosive (like Hebrew 'ayin.').

And our Ayin says

The letter represents a voiced pharyngeal fricative (/ʕ/) or a similarly articulated consonant.

What are we to think?! —Tamfang (talk) 01:48, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know, the original source claimed as such as you know, the thing is that the original revision is actually false, both of these languages do not have glottal stops as indicated in their respectible articles, so Wikipedia would be self-contradicting itself.

This "voiced guttural plosive" is the best that I've got. 🪐Kepler-1229b | talk | contribs🪐 03:13, 9 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]