Talk:Shortwave listening/GA2

GA Review[edit]

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Reviewer: North8000 (talk · contribs) 20:37, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Review discussion[edit]

Nice article!

Regarding the degree of reliance on internal links, what I try to use as a standard is that the average reader can understand what the sentence is saying without going to another article. If not, IMO putting at lease a few words of explanation is a good idea. IMHO there are 4 places that I noted where the typical reader really can't understand the meaning of the sentence without going to the other article at the link. These 4 are at the links DXing, Medium wave, QSL cards and Digital Radio Mondiale. I may tweak these myself, but wanted to mention it. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:26, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did the first three. North8000 (talk) 21:54, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Resolved LuckyLouie removed the 4 th one. North8000 (talk) 19:08, 28 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

In one place in the WW2 section it says "Shortwave listening hobbyists dwindled during the war years" and the lead appears to conflict saying " Shortwave listening was especially popular during times of international conflict such as World War II"..... Could you tweak to fix or clarify? North8000 (talk) 12:22, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Did attempt to clarify. Basically, SWLing was largely a male dominated hobby in the 1940s populated by die hard radio experimenters and people who competed for awards for most countries heard. When most (men) enlisted or were drafted, the related technical and hobbyist magazines and clubs went dormant. But there was a surge of interest from non-hobbyists (whose home radios just happened to cover the shortwave bands) seeking war news from European stations. - LuckyLouie (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Resolved North8000 (talk) 16:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Regarding the number of listeners, on one places it says according to one source it is in the millions (which makes it sound like maybe a few million, and elsewhere it says an estimate of 600,000,000 residences have receivers. Could you clarify? North8000 (talk) 19:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

According to the (2002) source, "The total estimated number of households worldwide with at least one shortwave set in working order is 600,000,000." How to summarize it in the lead? The editorially liberal Some estimates have placed the number of shortwave listeners worldwide at more than 600 million or the more literal A 2002 estimate placed the number households with a shortwave receiver at 600 million. LuckyLouie (talk) 19:31, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I think that the 2002 context is important.....are there any sources handy with a current estimate? I imagine that the 600,000,000 has declined due to 11 internet years between then and now, but it's probably still in the 100's of millions rather than just a few million. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 21:30, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I was not able to find any estimates past 2002, so added date as context. LuckyLouie (talk) 22:03, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Cool. Resolved North8000 (talk) 22:25, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GA criteria final checklist[edit]

Well-written

Meets this criteria. North8000 (talk) 11:06, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Factually accurate and verifiable

Meets this criteria. North8000 (talk) 22:28, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Broad in its coverage

Meets this criteria. North8000 (talk) 22:27, 30 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Neutral: it represents viewpoints fairly and without bias, giving due weight to each

Meets this criteria. North8000 (talk) 21:16, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Stable: it does not change significantly from day to day because of an ongoing edit war or content dispute

Meets this criteria. North8000 (talk) 21:15, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Illustrated, if possible, by images

Meets this criteria. Has 5 images. There are no non-free images so no use-specific rationales are required. North8000 (talk) 20:53, 27 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Result[edit]

This has passed as a Wikipedia Good Article. Nice article! Congratulations! North8000 (talk) 11:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC) Reviewer[reply]