Talk:Shrewsbury

GA Reassessment

Shrewsbury

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Result: A significant amount of unsourced material, failing GA criterion 2. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:53, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

GA from 2008. There's a lot of uncited material including lots tagged with citation needed and some refimprove tags. Bambots reports "CS1 errors: external links, Dead external links ((dead link)) (March 2016, January 2019, May 2019), Unsourced passages need footnotes ((citation needed)) (April 2022, January 2023, April 2023), Failed verification (February 2023), ... (April 2023)" Onegreatjoke (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2023 (UTC)

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The Poetry of Llywarch Hen as a source

These are used as justification for claiming the foundation of various institutions in Shrewsbury go back to the 6th century. However the poems are believed to have been composed in the middle of the 9th century: Welsh national biography. Llywarch was a prince of Rheged, not Powis, despite the tales being set on the eastern borders of the latter, possibly the home of the story-teller. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:57, 20 August 2023 (UTC)

Progress report 2

I've now gone through every section and done my best to clean up and tidy things. I've added a lot of <<citation needed>> and other maintenance tags which will need to be worked through at some stage. It is still nowhere near Good Article status yet but I hope to get there eventually. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:52, 28 August 2023 (UTC)

GA review

Possibly a bit premature but I feel this could go for a GA review now. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:05, 2 September 2023 (UTC)

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:Shrewsbury/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: Phlsph7 (talk · contribs) 10:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Unfortunately, this is a quickfail, due to QF criteria 1 & 3, see WP:QF. The article has many unreferenced passages and several full paragraphs lack references. To fix this, make sure that the claims in the body of the article are supported by inline citations no later than the end of the paragraph.

There are also various maintenance tags: 4x citation needed, 1x page needed, 3x better source needed, 1x permanent dead link, 1x bare URL PDF, 1x dead link. One of the tags "better source needed" is a wordpress blog, which is considered unreliable. A few other sources also seem to be blogs and would have to be checked for reliability. Despite all the improvements since the last GAR a few months ago, there is still a lot of work to be done.

A few other observations

• WP:EARWIG detects one WP:CLOSEPARAPHRASE:
  • our article: The following year, after his return to London, Caius published A Boke or Counseill Against the Disease Commonly Called the Sweate, or Sweatyng Sicknesse (1552). The president of the council was the dedicatee of the book, and the dedicatory epistle explains his appointment. This text became the main source of knowledge of this disease, now understood to be influenza.
  • https://www.britannica.com/biography/John-Caius: The following year, after his return to London, he published A Boke or Counseill Against the Disease Commonly Called the Sweate, or Sweatyng Sicknesse (1552), which became the main source of knowledge of this disease.
• The town has Saxon roots and surviving institutions whose foundations date from that time, represent a cultural continuity possibly going back as far as the 8th century. replace "time, represent" with "time and represent"
• Henry subsequently took the government of the town in to his own hands replace "in to" with "into"
• In 1821, the county purchased a building in College Hill which was adapted to became the judge's lodgings, replace "became" with "become"
• The town council, first convened on 1 April 2009, and its chair is the mayor of Shrewsbury. remove the two commas
• several mentions of "north east", "south east", and the like: add a hyphen
• several mentions of "14th century", "19th century", and the like: add a hyphen if this is used as an adjective, as in "The King's Head in Mardol contains a 14th-century wall painting,"
• some passages use Oxford commas but others don't. Consistency would be better.
• avoid American English (travellers)

Phlsph7 (talk) 10:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

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Royal visits

An editor has been busy adding every mention of a royal visit he can find. I'm not sure this is really necessary as most such visits are hardly notable. Perhaps when attending a major event but not just routine visits. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:16, 13 January 2024 (UTC)

I have deleted mention of Queen Mary visiting Shrewsbury in 1927 to reopen the English Bridge, and its sole citation, a photo of the reopening plaque which is misleading, the inscription being 'economical with the truth'. The bridge was SCHEDULED to be reopened in October 1927 when the Prince of Wales was to the visit the town but it was cancelled because the court, nation and town had gone into mourning for her brother the Marquess of Cambridge (erstwhile Duke of Teck) who had died at a Shrewsbury nursing home immediately before the Prince's visit. However, in what could be considered a technical rewrite of history, the plaque was allowed to go up declaring it was reopened by her, with the Queen's permission, because in the summer of that year she had driven across the newly completed rebuilt bridge in a visit she did make to the town accompanied by her brother although it was NOT at the time held as a reopening ceremony.Cloptonson (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2024 (UTC)