Talk:Shugborough House inscription

Missing Bit[edit]

Just before the two main theories are explored, the article mentions a correlation between the initials and a phrase in the Bible. 'Twould be handy/interesting/less annoying if said phrase was provided. Thankee.69.157.227.224 (talk) 00:15, 1 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Removed[edit]

I removed this text:

"As this explanation is endorsed by the family of Shugborough Hall, it casts considerable doubt on the inscription's status as a 'great unsolved code/cipher', and upon conspiracy theory interpretations of it."

...because it not only unencyclopedically forms an opinion, casts an aspersion, and draws a conclusion, it does so based on a flimsy premise: Just because an explanation is endorsed by the family of Shugborough Hall, this doesn't really change anything. The matter is still one of speculation and probably always will be. wikipediatrix 18:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Name and detail[edit]

Should this really be under this name? The Monument is called 'The Shepherd's Monument' and even if that isn't acceptable, it should at least be called the 'Shugborough Hall Inscription' (Or monument), considering Shugborough is always referred to as either an Estate or a Hall.

Oh, also, the picture doesn't include the inscription, which is under the main sculpture. It mentions in the article that, in the sculpture, the letter on the tomb being pointed at has changed from the original painting. Would someone with some more in depth knowledge be able to say which letter that is, as it is commonly thought by people trying to 'crack the code' that it is important to deciphering the code below. Spugmeister 21:04, 6 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not that bothered about the title. In both versions the letter R in ARCADIA is being pointed to, but with the finger in the painting and the thumb in the sculpture. The finger in the sculpture is broken, but was pointing to the N in IN. Obviously the inscription is reversed from the painting, otherwise it would appear backwards. Paul B 01:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Surely this should be in the main article then? And while the name might not seem too important (especially for those searching particularly for the fabled holy grail reference), I think there should be a couple of redirected links added with alternative names, especially the 'Shepherd's Monument' name. Spugmeister 11:07, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Norwegian solution[edit]

The "Norwegian solution" is just some giberish on someones homepage. The "norwegian words" he ends up with are not words, and never have been in any dialect past or present. It would be as if someone took "De R Gi He" to mean "There are giants here". Remove.

Well, I don't speak a word of Norwegian, but since an infinite number of solutions are possible, there's no reason to pick out something as implausible as one in Norwegian. Paul B 09:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Sic Transit Gloria Mundi! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.162.102.1 (talk) 12:42, August 28, 2007 (UTC)

The authoritative reference[edit]

I have added the authoritative historical and art-historical reference: Shugborough: "The Shepherd's Monument". An improved version of this Wikipedia article would build on facts. --Wetman 21:14, 15 June 2007 (UTC) Insert non-formatted text here[reply]