Talk:Shulk/GA1

GA Review

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Nominators: Sergecross73 (talk · contribs) Greenish Pickle! (talk · contribs) 06:16, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

Reviewer: ProtoDrake (talk · contribs) 10:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

I'll take this on. If I'm not back with comments by this time next week, ping me. --ProtoDrake (talk) 10:55, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@ProtoDrake, but take your time. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 04:33, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Here are some initial comments

• Lead seems a little slim, especially with the breadth of info in the article. Can't some of his dev info be included?  Done
• It's not essential, but I found this interview (https://www.nintendo.com/jp/topics/article/6532863c-c5ed-4949-bc94-ce7bbc73c96a) containing comments from Shulk's JP voice actor.  Done
• Is there any solid information on who designed Shulk? I couldn't, but the creator himself Takahashi is also the designer.
  • It is probably designed by Kunihiko Tanaka, but I couldn't find a source but this a twitter? [1] 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 10:15, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
    • @Greenish Pickle!: Tanaka doesn't seem to have worked on Xenoblade in a character design capacity. Found this article on the subject of character designs (it's from 2017 and a known author, so the website should be alright in this instance.) May help? --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:22, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

      Creator himself is a designer it seems? Thank you. I'll work on it tomorrow. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 13:24, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

       Done 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:51, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

• The trailer appearances seem pretty redundant.
  • Actually, this whole section looks a little ropey. There's no story summary, the prose is repetative in places, and it reads more like a promotional thing or a Wikia entry. What did he do in the Xenoblades? I'm pretty use it can be summarised without bloating.
    • Comment I already removed the trailer appearances and made several edits to this section. Thou, I couldn't exactly fix or edit his main appearances as someone who isn't familiar with Xenoblade, and this content was added by Serge himself, so maybe Sergecross73 can help only with this part? 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 10:01, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
      •  Done and attempted. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 00:27, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
• I know TheGamer is treated as technically acceptable, but... Is his catchphrase such a huge part of his character? It's not mentioned anywhere else.  Done removing it.
• There could be more paraphrasing in the reception. Eyeing on it.

That's initial comments. Putting the article on hold so they can be properly addressed where needed. --ProtoDrake (talk) 09:06, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

I'm probably not going to have much time to work on this, life's gotten busy. I also don't usually do the GA process much, and wrote much of the original version that you guys aren't liking, so I'm not sure I'm the person for the job. Sergecross73 msg me 16:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

 Done and attempted. I'll deal with it. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:09, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

• Note - Earlier in the year, the article survived an AFD. I believe there was a book source or two that was presented in it that may be helpful with the reception section. Sergecross73 msg me 14:50, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

  Already used them, including the Edge Serge. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:02, 25 April 2024 (UTC)

@Greenish Pickle!: Any headway on the reception? --ProtoDrake (talk) 18:12, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

Wait, can you clearify what sentence I should paraphrase at reception sec? 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:10, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@Greenish Pickle!: It was the section as a whole. Every sentence uses a quote or quotes. --ProtoDrake (talk) 22:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

I see. I'll do another attempt later. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:52, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

@ProtoDrake I attempted to rephrased most of them. Meanwhile, I couldn't really do that much in the second paragraph. If you still disliked the quote content then I can remove the second paragraph entirely. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 01:07, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

@Greenish Pickle!: The second paragraph's fine as is, but now the first paragraph's become a slog to get through. It's extremely long, the presence tense styling feels a little game promo-ish, and it just runs on at times. I'm sure you could say what you want to say about Shulk without all that verbiage (may sound harsh, but I had to cut down a reception section like this when one of my GANs was reviewed once upon a time). Also, I didn't notice it at first, but is Nintendojo a valid source? I thought it was on Wikipedia's blacklist. --ProtoDrake (talk) 13:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Removed Nintendojo and I already cut some. Wdyt now? 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 22:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Nintendojo is currently listed as reliable at WP:VG/S, FYI. Sergecross73 msg me 22:32, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

Oh I missed that one. I restored it. 🥒Greenish Pickle!🥒 (🔔) 23:57, 30 April 2024 (UTC)