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Local Militias[edit]

This article includes names of many local militias of al-Fu'ah and Kafriya http://www.joshualandis.com/blog/situation-al-fua-kafariya/ 3bdulelah (talk) 19:35, 21 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Decisive Victory[edit]

Ok, to begin with the result of this battle cant be a Desisive Victory for the outcome of the War.

Also the Battle itself was not amilitary victory a Cease fire and evacuation took place.Mr.User200 (talk) 18:12, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

First you have to start a discussion then edit not the opposite, second I can't see the difference between this and Homs pocket which was taken by a deal after the offinsive failed and yet it's labeled as a major victory for Assad, I mean we still have the Battle of Idlib result as only a "Nusra-led Victory" because some editors here think that Assad's victories are the only Major and decisive victories. It's not decisive for the war but decisive for the fate of Idlib area. 3bdulelah (talk) 21:07, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think the difference between the Homs pocket and this siege is that the former was a really big pocket and the rebels had to surrender much military equipment, including several tanks, to leave. On the other side, al-Fu'ah and Kafriya were two small towns held by militias and a few army soldiers, as well as Hezbollah and Iranian advisors. By leaving, the government lost almost nothing (aside from prestige). Applodion (talk) 21:51, 19 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Size is not the matter but the strategic importance, same goes for Waer district of Homs. Don't forget that the rebels at their maximum strength in 2015 took Idlib, Jisr al-Shoughor, Mastomah and Ariha but couldn't take Fou'a 3bdulelah (talk) 13:16, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Honest question: What kind of strategic worth did al-Fu'ah and Kafriya have? As far as I understood, their main value for the rebels was that the locals could possibly act as hostage, while the government valued them as symbol for unyielding loyalist holdouts. Had the rebels actually captured the towns and the inhabitants, it would have been a major success, but due to the evacuation both towns have become mostly worthless (unless some of the displaced families from the south settle there). Applodion (talk) 13:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Per Applodion and Mr.User200. A rebel victory, but not a decisive one. No real impact on the course of the war. EkoGraf (talk) 19:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Agreed, not decisive at all. Was an actual strategic loss for the rebels if anything. Less chips to bargain with. JasonMoore (talk) 16:43, 24 January 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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