Talk:Siyum HaShas

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Did you know... that 120,000 people participated in the 2005 Siyum HaShas, celebrating their completion of the eleventh 7½-year Daf Yomi study cycle, in which one folio of the 2,711-page Babylonian Talmud is studied each day?

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possible Merge with Daf Yomi?

JJ211219 03:43, 26 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Arithmetic[edit]

7 1/2 years is 2,739 days (the exact number depends on unequal months, leap year, and maybe the Hebrew calendar). So 2,711 pages in 7 1/2 years is about one page per day. So why did someone make a point out of changing it to one folio (that is, two pages) per day on Did You Know? This article also says one folio per day but only 2,711 pages. Art LaPella 23:29, 16 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The issue is terminology. While most English language books have pages numbered sequentially, the standard Talmud has page numbers 2a and 2b on opposite sides of the first leaf, 3a and 3b on the second leaf, etc. A "daf" is both sides, or two pages (as commonly used), which is what is studied each day. On the first day of a new tractate, both 2a and 2b are studied (there is no daf 1). As the term folio is rarely used (the folio article doesn't help clarify the usage), "Daf Yomi" is often translated as "page a day". One might more accurately state 2,711 folios (or less accurately 5,422 pages, as there are some half pages at the end of tractates), but that might only add to the confusion. I agree that the wording is imperfect and could well be improved. Alansohn 06:20, 17 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Connection between Siyum Hashas and Daf Yomi[edit]

A Siyum Hashas is made upon the completion of the study of the entire Talmud. Many people complete the study of the Talmud in 7 and a half years by participating in the Daf Yomi program. Other people go at their own pace, sometimes finishing it sooner than 7 years, sometimes taking longer. They too make a Siyum Hashas upon completion of their study of the Talmud. This article gives the impression that a Siyum Hashas is (only) made upon a completion of the Daf Yomi cycle. Danthecan (talk) 16:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. This information has been included under "Other Uses". Yoninah (talk) 18:48, 29 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Shas-a-thon[edit]

According to the section Other Uses,

An initiative known as a Shas-A-Thon brings hundreds and even thousands of participants together to study and complete the entire Talmud in one day. This initiative is sometimes used as a fund-raiser, with participants collecting pledges from donors.

First, these sentences should be considered for removal; it's not clear why, of the countless groups which make a siyum hashas, shas-a-thon deserves its own mention in this section. Second, if it is determined that these sentences should remain, it would be useful to clarify whether the number of participants number in the hundreds or thousands, and then to adjust the article accordingly; "hundreds and even thousands" does not portray an encyclopedic tone. NoamB (talk) 18:54, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]