Talk:Smokey and the Bandit

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what was the snow man's dog named? Someone please settle this bet for me\ Rosco? jjklein4@aol.com thanks

Dog's name was Fred. You're welcome. -galation

Snowman's dog was named Fredrick. - neutral

Error?[edit]

There is an error. The scenes at the race track were filmed at the Nashville Speedway, not in Atlanta. The Tennessee State Fair Park there was made up to look like the Georgia State Fair Park, but it was actually filmed at the park in Nashville. You can see the old white wooden roller coaster, the Skyliner, in it clearly in a lot of the shots. I know it was shot there, because I was in Nashville when it was filmed. They wanted extras for the shoot and I almost went.

Actually, the Fairground and racetrack scenes were filmed at Lakewood Speedway/Lakewood Fairgrounds- I was there. Check out the photos at http://www.atlantatimemachine.com/smokey/thumbnails.htm. The Greyhound at Lakewood was the old wooden rollercoaster (demolished on film for the second movie.) Deelzbub May 2008

Actually, there is no source referenced for either of those claims so it shouldn't be in the article...OR preferrably you should provide a source like this < ref> source </ref > (but without the spaces)74.92.180.145 (talk) 15:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

If the article is accurate, perhaps there should be some mention that the Bandit's payment for his beer run amounts to $8 per beer ($26 in today's dollars). Even given a dearth of Coors on the east coast, this would dictate an extremely unrealistic price. Was this also part of a bet, or was there some other plot reason for this high payment? NTK 15:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Coors was unavailable for sale in Georgia at the time the film was made. It had just become available as far East as Texas. Big and Little Enos wanted the beer and had enough money to pay whatever price was demanded for it but that wasn't really the point of having Bandit go get it for them. What they wanted was for him to fail, lose the bet, and look bad. Uncle Bubba (talk) 18:06, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I added a little more thorough explanation in the plot section about why Coors was unavailable. I added a longer section explaining it underneath all the information about the cars. I cited a couple sources.Planeis (talk) 17:59, 21 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The Kenworth.[edit]

SHouldn't there be mention made of the Kenworth truck in the film? A long time ago I read on an internet website (I think it was "nitpick.com" or something similar where it said that a total of three trucks and two trailers were used for the film.

Also, it would be interesting to note where these trucks are today, if they even still exist. The truck is just as important a character, if not more so, in the film as the Trans Am was, IMOSrosenow 98 12:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Definitely, if you've got some verifiable information on the trucks that would be good. --Robert Merkel 04:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Pontiac never produced a "Bandit Edition" Fire Bird TA. There was a "Bandit Edition" TA made by a company called Trans Am specialties in 1981 and it was made from 1981 stock Firebirds. There was an article in Motor Trend magazine in June of 1981 about this "Bandit Edition".

Well, if you could fix it, and add a reference to your magazine, that would be really great, thanks. --Robert Merkel 04:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Mistakes" section[edit]

I believe the "Mistakes" section ought to be deleted. Goofs are unencyclopedic trivia. No matter how interesting they are, they have no place in a serious encyclopedia (which is what Wikipedia strives to be). Remember, Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Furthermore, as they are not published in any reliable sources, they count as original research. The section's got to go, period. (By the way, one user has claimed that I am "POV-pushing" in saying this section has to go. That is incorrect. "POV-pushing" is a term used to describe articles or sections that tend to favor one viewpoint over another and are thus biased.) --Hnsampat 18:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"East Bound and Down" redirect[edit]

I believe the "East Bound and Down" redirect to "Smokey and the Bandit" should be removed, given the forthcoming HBO show of the same name. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homerbklyn (talk • contribs) 16:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, there is a difference, which as of 18 February Wikipedia has not corrected in the name of its Title Page. The HBO show is correctly titled Eastbound & Down. "Eastbound" is one word. "East Bound" is two words. Glenn L (talk) 16:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I imagine that a disambiguation page could be useful here. Though there are only two uses, a disambiguation link at the top would not make much sense, as the article is on Smokey and the Bandit and there is only a section on the soundtrack.--Unclebanglin (talk) 21:27, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

east bound and down should absolutely NOT direct to this site. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.116.100 (talk) 16:07, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Remake Section?[edit]

I've been doing some research ever since reading this page, and I can't find any evidence for this fact anywhere. Should it be deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.2.170.12 (talk) 09:18, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The closest evidence I can find of a remake is this about a planned film called Trucker, "pegged as an updated take on Smokey and the Bandit". There is nothing about a direct remake, though, so the information appears false. (It can happen sometimes, unfortunately.) I'll remove the section. Thanks for the heads-up! Erik (talk) 14:37, 25 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

"Diablo sandwich"[edit]

I wrote the "Diablo sandwich" section -- and its pretty awful, grammatically. I think this is of reasonable interest, but....well, I'm either going to rewrite it, or, if someone else cares to un-sloppify my writing, I'd be glad to see it. Also, I still want to know what a Diablo sandwich is ;) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.56.24 (talk) 10:13, 20 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect (and any SATB trivia is good in my book), I don't really feel this fits a Wikipedia article. It would be a fun addition to a fan website, but as a hardcore Smokey fan for all of my 33 years, I personally wouldn't say it was one of the key points of the movie. =) Jay Firestorm (talk) 21:09, 11 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll grant you that, but -- let me put it this way: I first saw this movie about two years ago. I've been hearing debates about "Diablo sandwich" -- many, and frequent -- since I joined the Straight Dope board circa 1999...and its since become a minor legend (particularly in the south). Namely, everyone swears they've had one, or they saw it on a diner menu, or...etc. I'll grant that it may well not warrant its own subheading (in fact -- hehe, realistically, yes, it almost certainly doesn't) -- but perhaps a general category on "Popular Culture"? I'm of the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that this movie had a HUGE influence on the "CB craze", for example; similarly, was not this the originator (along with the song "Convoy"?) of the "trucker-as-American-hero" asthetic? I could see putting all that -- and the Diablo sandwich -- together under a broader "effect on pop culture" banner. Thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.186.152.160 (talk) 02:41, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

dry counties[edit]

"Also, Texarkana, Texas, is located in a dry county, preventing Coors or any other alcoholic beverage from being sold there"

While it is true that Texarkana is in a dry county preventing retail beer sales, its still possible for distributors to maintain warehouses in the county containing beer along the lines of what was seen in the film. Warehousing for distribution purposes is totally different than retail sales. 70.234.227.164 (talk) 05:43, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

1800 miles![edit]

I haven't seen the film in quite a while ... and the article doesn't mention any particular place in Georgia, which is a fairly wide state. Do they actually make particular mention that the start/finish line is in Atlanta story-wise, as well as having been filmed there? Or might Atlanta be subbing in for, say, Savannah? (A rather convenient 900 miles from Texarkana!)

That or maybe there wasn't a decent continuous direct interstate between the two states at the time and you'd have to take a considerable detour to avoid lots of hold-ups that'd delay you even more? I do recall at least a few sequences where they're driving on relatively narrow, curving country roads rather than arrow straight divided freeways. 193.63.174.211 (talk) 08:18, 19 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Sally Field casting[edit]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/burt-reynolds-sally-field-she-180715846.html

Majinsnake (talk) 00:03, 16 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Coors Beer Section Needs Work[edit]

The passage about Coors beer and why it was not available east of Oklahoma is flawed. I have worked in the alcohol industry for 30 years. NO major commercial beer contains compounds that we would identify as stabilizers and preservatives. There is no need. The alcohol in beer (even though it is low) and the hops used in production serve as preservatives. There is no such thing as a "stabilizer" in beer production. Later in the paragraph "additives" are referred to instead of "stabilizers." This furthers the confusion. Additives to beer would not influence shelf life. They would influence- clarity, water ph, flavor, bittering, and a host of other issues. Beer will not pose a health risk if it is not consumed within a few weeks, so I don't think spoiling is the right word. It is possible that Coors was susceptible to picking up a skunky flavor if it was not kept within a strict temperature range, but this is a separate issue and not spoilage. Light lager beers can be vulnerable to this flavor shift and I imagine that Coors didn't really want to market this, so instead advertised their lack of preservatives (a claim that every other brewery could make). I think the 1970's article referenced is probably not very accurate and therefore misleading. 

   The real reason that Coors was not being distributed to the east had nothing to do with preservatives and more to do with wholesale distributors.  The famous people bringing back Coors to the east are not beating spoilage so much as extending the brand's range.  You can't get it in the Carolina's so it is more valuable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.45.62.9 (talk) 03:36, 7 September 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The American brewing industry and associated liquor laws are incomprehensible to anybody outside the US. Most people don't appreciate that this movie is about a beer distribution dispute, which would be inconceivable anywhere else. The rest of the world sees it as a lightweight road movie. Yee-ha! The Dukes of Hazzard cast a long shadow. --Ef80 (talk) 19:49, 4 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Blusterous ?[edit]

Well, okay, but when I was at school we would have used ‘blustering’ to describe a personality like Justice’s. Different now in Trump’s America, I guess. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:D44F:B85E:8DD:BFFD (talk) 06:38, 6 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Beer role[edit]

Re: 

Legal status of Coors beer In 1977, Coors was unavailable for sale east of Oklahoma.

But why? Not explained. Zezen (talk) 05:51, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, only now I read this above: 

The American brewing industry and associated liquor laws are incomprehensible to anybody outside the US. Most people don't appreciate that this movie is about a beer distribution dispute...

Indeed. So let us explain this "bootlegging".

Zezen (talk) 05:54, 6 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

First Television Broadcast Date[edit]

In the section about television broadcasts, it says something like "When the movie was first broadcast on television in the early 1980s...." This is wrong. I think it was first broadcast in early 1979. I have some film negatives, (the complete roll of film), where I took pictures of the television screen during the first broadcast of Smokey And The Bandit. Later on in that same roll, I have some screenshots of Battlestar Galactica, which premiered during the new fall season in late 1978. Since Battlestar Galactica actually only lasted one season, under no circumstances could these shots have been taken later than 1979. And the Battlestar Galactica screenshots are not of Galactica 1980, but the original Battlestar Galactica. I've been trying to put an exact date to this roll of film, but all internet sources seem to have it wrong. I did see a promo on You Tube about it's television premiere being in 1979 on a Sunday night for NBC's Big Event. Now, if only somebody had the show logs from NBC, an actual date for it's first broadcast could be made. I hope this helps. HaarFager (talk) 08:54, 23 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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